You remember me................I'm back!

Hi Storzok! Hi Matorzok! Hi st_joel! Hi the rest!

How is everyone? Me personally, been better, still have two eyes and a nose lol! I have been quickly learning Korean from my Bok-Sanim at a Southern Baptist Church here in the beautiful state of Washington and been going to a Nazarene Church as well.

I finally decided to update my account and also bring up something...........................................I need proof.

Considering what hell I have been through, and still go through, I want proof that these prophecies are true and accurate. Considering what I have been through, I can't have "You have to believe" for an answer.

The prophecies are so vague they can fit anything............I need something better because no one else around me wants to hear of these prophecies, and me personally, I am content figuring out Korean, working, and eating food.


You want to hear about what happened? Shortly after the cult, I went to work (I believe fulltime) at the real estate place, and during the summer I rather enjoyed my dream job. That gave the demons enough time to finetune me into their housing project: I saw visions with my eyes around June-July, mostly lies, and heard lies as well. During the summer I also met up with two angels. I lost my job because of these demons, and I doubt God really wanted me to lose that job, because of one thing.


I met the real God. He is worth it.

I also know I need to be a (personal occupation).


If I am going to come back to these prophecies, there is going to have to be some proof that they are from the same God who I met, who my family worships and who lots of people KNOW. Can you do this?

I also want to know about the Japanese and the Israelites. Cheers.



Until then, Annyong Haseyo (Be at peace) y

Annyong hi keyseyo (Be at peace as I leave).

BlueRiver

Hi, Blue River!!

Welcome back and God bless you.

You have come to the wrong place to ask for proof--only the Holy Spirit can give you wisdom here. It is not man's place to prove anything for or from God. You need to go to your bible, test the spirits, and let the Lord himself confirm for you.
Much love and blessings,

Susan in Colorado )

God bless you Garrett ,

welcome back to the link. Its good to hear from you again.

We have all be going through attacks , and ups and downs like the Lord said we would. And for a good reason. For the Lord is Good who allows it. I told you garrett , long ago before you left. Remember i told you that i tried that already? Tried to get rid of the devils that come against me. Dont be decieved my friend , they wont stop til they have you in the pit. But fear not for God has indeed set up a standard.

The Lord our God has given us counsel Garrett , that we should stick close together. That we should be close and tight. That it will make us stronger.

Susan has answered your question as the Lord God led her. You know it to be true.

I hope you will stay , and tell us the things the Lord has shown you.

As for those false visions you were haveing. Ive had alot of demonic dreams as well. Alot nightmares and stuff like that. I even heard and seen Jesus in my dreams , only i dont fully believe it was Jesus , for there was somethings that were a little contrary to Gods Word.

Yeah i have some dreams i would like to tell you about , some that i didnt post on the link here. For me its been a battle that i seem to be loseing. When i think im doing well i find that im not doing well at all. But God is Good to me , Hes been Mercyfull beyond what i can explain. And what noah has told me has given me a new look at the battle , that its not even mine but the Lords , and hes right.

Anyhow the battle seems to be increasing for me. One thing after another. Testing all of my ways , from anger to lust , to greed to pride. My faith is tested daily , for often it feels like im failing God. And other such feelings. Its a struggle to take that first step to pray and read my bible and commune with God. But when i do it , when i get to reading i find strenght , and its as if the atmosphere of lonlyness and depression and self loathing disapears. And i find joy in reading the bible and it gives me strenght. I guess thats what it all boils down to my friend. Read your bible , pray and commune with God everyday. Thats when the attacks come against you more , for satan tries everything to keep you from reading and praying and communeing with God.

For me the main attack , well the strongest was the feeling of not being worthy. It was the strongest because it somewhat held water. Because my ways arent perfect. Yet its contrary to the Truth and God would remind me that He has made me worthy.

But that feeling would be so strong that it would be hard for me to pray , feeling as if there was a gulf inbetween me and God. Its satan trying to decieve me , God teaches us that we have to correct those thoughts and feelings by speaking the Truth of Gods Word. And i tell you from experience that it works.

Not too long ago i was in such a state where i was surrounded by depression and bordom. I didnt want to pray at all , i wanted to go and do something , i didnt want to lay there and pray. But as i prayed the atmosphere changed and i began to want to pray more and more , and was so happy to be laying there praying and not out doing other things. I wasnt bored anymore.

Im speaking all of this my friend , not just to you , but to others as well , i believe it will help someone. Its the only reason im speaking it. Because everyday is a battle , how ever slight or great the attack , everyday we have to be on gaurd.

So let loose again of all that you have learned Garrett , let go of all that you have Learned. And only that which is True and of God will be manifest in your heart. For i tried before to unlearn all that i have learned . And those things that i wasnt for sure of were clearly seen as that , but those things God has Confirmed in my heart stood still they would not move. Then come and draw close with your bible and with the Holy Ghost , and with us , for He dwell in us as well. Asking God to Guide you , doubless He will open your eyes and you will see and have the proof you seek.

That goes for all of us. We all need to draw closer together , and tell each other the things were going through. And help each other. Sometimes i feel all alone , and its not good to be alone.

Ive spoken much here Garrett . I havent spoken this much to the list or the link in a long time. Ive been under too much attack and havent felt good about posting. But i will post this , there are too many lonly people on this list , and being all alone against the whiles of the devil is not Good. But i think everyone is afraid of speaking , even me. For ive tried to keep my voice for God , to speak only what He wanted when He wanted. But found only that im not perfect in that. When i first came here it wasnt like that for me.

So let me speak more again , and if im wrong then Doubtless one of the Servants of God will correct me , and i will learn. But let me not keep quiet about what im going through , that i may have the counsel and prayers of my friends. And that i may grow in knowlege.

Yeah its good to hear from you again garrett , dont wonder off too far there are things i want to talk with you about. Email me or Pm me when you get the time , and tell me how your day is going.


Gods peace be with you

Hi Blue,
I'm glad to see that you're back...but I'm also worried with what you've said. What worries me the most out of your entire post is the fact that you said you can't "just believe." What is faith? Webster defines it as this:

Main Entry: 1faith
Pronunciation: 'fAth
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths /'fAths, sometimes 'fA[th]z/
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Anglo-French feid, fei, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust -- more at BIDE
1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>

Something that has no proof. By proof I am talking about stone cold, hard facts. You said you read the bible, so if someone came to you today and said well I don't believe in God...but I will if you can PROVE to me everything in the bible happened and is real. How would you do it? How could you physically prove some of the things in the bible happened to a person today?...it's very hard to a non-believer, because God works in ways that man can't understand. Our faith is based on believing in something that right now we can't see or touch. But we "just believe." We believe in Jesus Christ, God, and the Holy Spirit as one because that's what the bible teaches us. But to a non-believer...how do you actually show them the Holy Spirit? We can't. Only if they believe, then God can fill them with it...but ONLY if they believe and want it.

It's the same with Ray being a prophet...you believe him or you don't. If a prophet in the bible made a prophecy and it came true then he was a true prophet...but not everything comes to pass instantly. God uses his prophets to warn people...and you can believe it, or not. It's really that simple. We have to test spirits as we're taught in the bible, and allow the Holy Spirit to interpret and teach us...but beyond that no man can ever tell us what to do or believe. Ray has a link off of his site with possible confirmations that people believed to have occured already...but is that enough to show you he is a true prophet? We could give you all the physical proof in the world that we have...but is that enough to convince you? I hope I don't sound condemning or anything in this, because I'm not trying to be, but I'm trying to make the point that it's up to you to decide...don't let any man tell you what is right and what isn't. As Susan said you have to take this to God and the Holy Spirit and let them tell you the truth.

I am glad to see you back though...but still worried that something may be looking very nice to you and friendly...but it's telling you lies. I say this because re-reading your post you said this:

If the God you met told you to come here, then why the questions? If it's a different God then you think is talking to Ray, then would you honestly believe us telling you Ray is a true prophet? Again you can't take any man's word for it. I know what you've been through...or at least when we were still talking to you what you were going through...and there were A LOT of demons around you manipulating you. I pray that they will leave you alone in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I also pray that you will stop for a second and examine the prophecies that brought you here a long time ago...and to seek God with your heart and allow Him to tell you where His truths lie.

Yours in Christ,
Stephanie

(Right now before I send this...I'm reminded of the scripture of the demons coming back to a nice, clean house. I'm afraid that in your situation the demons may just be hiding and trying to get you to come here...and then they resurface and it looks like this caused it. I know your family is trying very hard to protect you, and I just don't want you to get hurt again if these demons are still hanging around. You can't just bypass them. I just feel this very strongly right now...if you decide to stay maybe you can tell us some more about these demons and how they left?)

Just one more thing I wanted to add. Sometimes God lets us fall on our faces...sometimes when we need to see Him or hear Him the most, we're blind and deaf. Why? Because He wants to see our FAITH in Him. He sent His son to die for us, I know I've said this many times before but He doesn't owe us...we owe Him everything. So sometimes He doesn't give us the proof we seek...He needs to know that you trust in Him.

I personally believe that the God I read of in the bible is the one who speaks to Ray. I believe everything happens for a reason...even the bad things. We know that if we sin, we're forgiven but still will pay for it. Blue, I believe you were initially brought here for a reason...you were soon after led astray for a reason, and are now back. You must figure out why that is. I remember seeing how much you grew being here...and then how fast it all went down hill, and how sad my dad and I were whenever he got to speak to you on the phone...and then when no one could speak to you. You helped my family out in a way that you can't even imagine...and I feel that I had to say all of these things right now, to help you if it does in any way.

Yours in Christ,
Stephanie

Ephesians 3:14-21 "For this reason I (We) kneel before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named (named: because He created all that is seen and unseen), that He may grant you in accord with the riches of his glory (heaven and earth are full of His glory) to be strengthened with power through his Spirit (The Holy Spirit) in the inner self (your soul), and that Christ may dwell in your heart (the center of your being) through faith (because you believe in Him, remember He believes in you! that's why He created you, us.) that you, rooted and grounded in Love, (He is the love of the Father for us who believe) may have the strength to comprehend WITH ALL THE HOLY ONES what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, (knowledge is from man, revelation true revelation, beyond knowledge, is from God) so that you may be filled (FILLED) with the fullness of God. (this is why God created us, to be filled) Now to Him who is ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH MORE THAN WE COULD ASK OR IMAGINE (beyond anything we could think of), by the power at work within us, (the power of the Holy Spirit preparing the temple of our bodies, Like Jesus driving out the money changers) to Him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever (eternally). Amen (amen: in this I believe)

Heb.11

[1] Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
[2] For by it the elders obtained a good report.
[3] Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
[4] By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
[5] By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
[6] But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
[7] By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
[8] By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
[9] By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
[10] For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
[11] Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised.
[12] Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.
[13] These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
[14] For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
[15] And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
[16] But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
[17] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
[18] Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
[19] Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
[20] By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.
[21] By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff.
[22] By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.
[23] By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment.
[24] By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;
[25] Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
[26] Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
[27] By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.
[28] Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
[29] By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.
[30] By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.
[31] By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
[32] And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
[33] Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
[34] Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
[35] Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:
[36] And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:
[37] They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;
[38] (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
[39] And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
[40] God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

Good to hear from you again - I am sure not one of us at this site hasn't already questioned the prophecies many times but that was not what led me to come here again and again. I myself cannot testify anything more than when I had my first encounter with the Almighty Living God, I remebered Ray's earliest writings of his encouners with the Holy Spirit and he described what I experienced in an unassuming, humble and heartfelt way that best captured what I had felt (which I couldn't believe at the time I could have put the experience into words).

The feeling of His Presence has not been near again for awhile, but left such an impression that it has carried me for many years in a stronger faith.

I have since reread Ray's prophecies many times and find the words given from God for guidance on how to live our lives are the ones that help my resolve now. These agree totally with the Bible and as for the prophecies - though they are what intrigued me in the beginning I believe we must live our lives as if everyday is the last one before judgment.

I pray that you stay the course and trust, praise and follow the Lord God Jehovah, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirirt no matter what life throws at you. One thing I do know for sure, Garrett - this site has many people who care and pray for you and for each other.

This is called Love.

God is Love.

I just want to say thank you for praying for me especially during this difficult time. It is unfortunate that I am not able to to be with you all, as my family believes this site is another cult. Personally, I doubt that, but I still have not received overwhelming PROOF that I need to convince them otherwise. It would be nice to have something that would help me show them that this site is genuine. At least I have my Bibles.

I can see angels, and their windows, and that is pretty neat. I still have more demons to send to the lake of fire, but I am not going to whine about that, as i have a life to live. I still have more things I want to go do.

I do need more help, more guidance, and more direction in my life.

If there is some way I can help you guys, let me know.

Have a happy new year 2007. !!!

Garrett [BlueRiverTributaries]

Garrett,

Always, and in all things, let The Lord Lead you to the truth.
Ask for His gift of discernment in all things.
He will never lead you astray.

May The Lord Bless You with every spiritual blessing in heaven.

Hi Friend Blue

You say:



There will be no proof until it is too late. For when the proof comes, the bombs will have dropped, the armies will have invaded America, And the Christians will be killed on sight. The web sites they question will no longer be in existance for they will be illegal.

And those who have been watching and reading the Prophecies of Raymond and Thomas Gibson will be remembering the prophecies they read, and will be seeing all those prophecies being fulfilled.

And those who have accepted these Prophecies as those from the Holy Lord God Almighty, will be the ones which the Lord will be protecting during those terrible times, for the Prophecies ARE the Word of God. Those who have rejected the Word of God given in those prophecies, will not have the help of the Lord God Jesus Christ during that terriable time. For in rejecting the Word of Jesus Christ which Jesus Gave in these prophecies, will be rejecting Jesus Christ himself.

Woe to those, saith the Lord God Jesus Christ. For those people have rejected the word that MY holy Spirit has spoken to them. They refuse to come before me, asking for truth. So be it Saith the Holy Lord God Jesus Christ. They would rather follow man and what man teaches rather than to follow Me and the Word which I speak to them, Saith Jesus Christ, who sits at the Right hand of the Father. They have only to ask Me about what is true from Me and what is false and of man. But they will not do so. To them I will speak that I do not know them. Saith the Lord God Almighty. Either they accept My Word of the Prophecies now, or I Will reject them as they have rejected My Word.

Hi my friend Blue

You are NOT responsible for what your parents believe or not believe. You are ONLY responsible for what you believe or not believe.

There are some to whom nothing which you show them will be accepted as Proof. And there are some which have faith, and by which no proof is needed.

My friend, you could show your parents how many of the Prophecies have already been fulfilled, but they will not see. You could show your parents that there has not been even one faliure of the prophecies, but they will not believe. You could show your parents how all those prophecies line up with what the Bible says, and they will reject it.

My friend, do not blame what happens, or what is about to happen on your parents believing or not believing. You are responsible for yourself, and You alone are responsible for yourself. When the day of judgment comes for you, then you will stand alone before the judgment seat of Jesus Christ. You will answer for what you believe, for how you acted. You cannot save your parents and they cannot save you.