1860. Prophecy given to Raymond Aguilera on 11 November 2006 at 7:37 AM

Reymundo, the wives in your new family are going to be very tight like the seeds of a pomegranate – covered with the red Blood of Jesus and the armor of God.

From Deuteronomy (Mosaic Law)

15you shall surely set a king over you whom the LORD your God chooses, one (R)from among your countrymen you shall set as king over yourselves; you may not put a foreigner over yourselves who is not your countryman.

16"(S)Moreover, he shall not multiply horses for himself, nor shall he (T)cause the people to return to Egypt to multiply horses, since (U)the LORD has said to you, 'You shall never again return that way.'

17"(V)He shall not multiply wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away; nor shall he greatly increase silver and gold for himself.

Also consider this bit, from Timothy:

Overseers and Deacons
1(A)It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the (B)office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do.

2(C)An overseer, then, must be above reproach, (D)the husband of one wife, (E)temperate, prudent, respectable, (F)hospitable, (G)able to teach,

3(H)not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, (I)free from the love of money.

4He must be one who (J)manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity

5(but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of (K)the church of God?),

6and not a new convert, so that he will not become (L)conceited and fall into the (M)condemnation incurred by the devil.

7And he must (N)have a good reputation with (O)those outside the church, so that he will not fall into reproach and (P)the snare of the devil.

8(Q)Deacons likewise must be men of dignity, not double-tongued, (R)or addicted to much wine (S)or fond of sordid gain,

9(T)but holding to the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience.

10(U)These men must also first be tested; then let them serve as deacons if they are beyond reproach.

11Women must likewise be dignified, (V)not malicious gossips, but (W)temperate, faithful in all things.

12(X)Deacons must be (Y)husbands of only one wife, and (Z)good managers of their children and their own households.

13For those who have served well as deacons (AA)obtain for themselves a high standing and great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus.


Generally speaking this passage of Timothy is used to argue against Bishops in the church being able to divorce, or for divorced men to be bishops, but I think it is pretty clear that God, in Scriptures, is NOT particularly in favor of polygamy, particularly not for LEADERS.

I believe that the "new wives" has nothing to do with physical wives in the sense that you are considering. Didn't Ray say something that he thought they were connected to the seven churches in Revelation and that one of the prophecies kind of backed that thought up?

Hi melanie

But the answer is not as simple as it may seem.

First and formost, any part of the Bible must be interpreted by the Bible, for the true meaning will always be found in the Bible as a whole.

What I write here are my thoughts and not direct from the Holy Lord God.

I do not disagree with what you have written, but rather ask that you and others may consider the following:


The Prophecies, about the extra wives, which were given to Ray were as follows.

1317. Occurrence given to Raymond Aguilera on 17 April 1999 at 7:30 AM.

During prayer the Lord said, "The scorpion is taking two steps. The ladybug is…(I did not understand the end of this)"

Then the Lord said, "I have set you aside. You are different from My other prophets."

Vision:
A vision of three pipes and on top of the three pipes there was four pipes. (over)

Then the Lord said he was going to give me six more wives over the one he had promised years ago.

Then I said to the Lord, "That is not possible!"

Then the Lord gave me the following scriptures from Isaiah.

Then the Spirit of God just moved and moved and moved over me and would not let me go. I was left totally bewildered and very cold with chills.
Then I asked Lord, "Is this you Lord?"

Then the Lord said, "It is I - Jehovah, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. So be it! So be it! So be it! (over)

(From the Book of Isaiah - NIV Bible )

Isa 3:13 The LORD takes his place in court; he rises to judge the people. Isa 3:14 The LORD enters into judgment against the elders and leaders of his people: "It is you who have ruined my vineyard; the plunder from the poor is in your houses. Isa 3:15 What do you mean by crushing my people and grinding the faces of the poor?" declares the Lord, the LORD Almighty. Isa 3:16 The LORD says, "The women of Zion are haughty, walking along with outstretched necks, flirting with their eyes, tripping along with mincing steps, with ornaments jingling on their ankles. Isa 3:17 Therefore the Lord will bring sores on the heads of the women of Zion; the LORD will make their scalps bald." Isa 3:18 In that day the Lord will snatch away their finery: the bangles and headbands and crescent necklaces, Isa 3:19 the earrings and bracelets and veils, Isa 3:20 the headdresses and ankle chains and sashes, the perfume bottles and charms, Isa 3:21 the signet rings and nose rings, Isa 3:22 the fine robes and the capes and cloaks, the purses Isa 3:23 and mirrors, and the linen garments and tiaras and shawls. Isa 3:24 Instead of fragrance there will be a stench; instead of a sash, a rope; instead of well-dressed hair, baldness; instead of fine clothing, sackcloth; instead of beauty, branding. Isa 3:25 Your men will fall by the sword, your warriors in battle. Isa 3:26 The gates of Zion will lament and mourn; destitute, she will sit on the ground. Isa 4:1 In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, "We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!" Isa 4:2 In that day the Branch of the LORD will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the land will be the pride and glory of the survivors in Israel. Isa 4:3 Those who are left in Zion, who remain in Jerusalem, will be called holy, all who are recorded among the living in Jerusalem. Isa 4:4 The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire. Isa 4:5 Then the LORD will create over all of Mount Zion and over those who assemble there a cloud of smoke by day and a glow of flaming fire by night; over all the glory will be a canopy. Isa 4:6 It will be a shelter and shade from the heat of the day, and a refuge and hiding place from the storm and rain.

1853. Prophecy given to Raymond Aguilera on 2 November 2006 at 9:15 AM

……………. Everything I told you about being a thorn in man’s church is true. Everything I told you about the seven churches is true. Everything I told you about the wives is true. People have eyes to see what they want to see and in the manner they want to see. Everything is fine as long as they see what Jehovah sees, what Jesus Christ of Nazareth sees, what the Holy Spirit sees. That is where the Power is. That is where the Love is. The Creator, the Maker, the Breaker of the Universe has spoken! …………..

There is going to come a war where many things are going to change; the weather, the formation of countries, the power structures. Trust Me, Ray. The church of man is nothing. Do as I say, take that step. You are doing a good job. I will send you people to help you; whether they are wives, whether they are technicians, whether they are just average people.


1855. Prophecy given to Raymond Aguilera 7 November 2006 at 11:44 AM

.……… Like I told you earlier Reymundo you are going to be a thorn in the side of the Body of Christ. They will hate you! They will despise you! Just like the prophets of old. The Body of Christ has no Power. They have disarmed themselves through greed, through self indulgences, through pride. Remember Reymundo, you are going to be the thorn that is going to shake and is going to rattle this Body of Mine. Be Strong, be Brave, be Wise. Like I told you before; close those lips, say nothing! God will do the talking. God will deliver the things He has promised. The Power and Might of God cannot be broken. The Glory of God belongs to God. Don’t worry about the wives I promised you. I have chosen them. I will deliver them. I will deliver the Power of God. I will correct. I will discipline. ………


1860. Prophecy given to Raymond Aguilera on 11 November 2006 at 7:37 AM

Reymundo, the wives in your new family are going to be very tight like the seeds of a pomegranate – covered with the red Blood of Jesus and the armor of God. (Jacks note: very close together)

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My friend melanie, do not jump to conclusions. Throughout the bible the men have many times had multiple wives, and concubines, (which was an honorable position in society) with the blessing or approval of the Lord.

Note Abraham who had 2 wives, the second being given to Abraham by the first wife, to have children by, Jacob who had 4 wives, with each of his first two wives giving him a second wife to have children by., Solomon who had hundreds of wives and concubines, and on and on. Even in the time of Jesus, there were men who had more than one wife, even though the practice was to only have one wife at that time. I say that without getting into the actual scripture verses. Now please note that I am speaking for myself, for what I see and understand, and is not a word from the Holy Lord God.

Does this justify polygamy today? No it does not. In our society today it is not allowed.

That does sound much different than we have been taught, doesn't it?? . Does this mean that all the seven wives that the Lord God is giving to Raymond will be for sexual partners?? I do not believe so. Make note of what it says in Isaiah of the extra six wives. There is no hint of a sexual union there that I can see. Rather than a normal wife / husband relationship, the women only wanted to be known as belonging to the man, and in Isaiah, the women will take care of all their own needs like housing, food, clothing, etc. and Ray will not have to provide for any of that. Those wives will, according to the prophecies, be helpers to ray, living with Ray and Eva, and helping both of them to do the Work which the Lord has given, and will yet give to Raymond to do. Ray is streatched very thin right now, and I think that he will not be able to physically be able to continue at the work pace that he has been doing for the Lord.

I make note of the following. In the bible, throughout the bible, the men who took a wife, or many wives, were responsible to take care of every one of them equally. But from what I see of the wording of Isaiah, the situation with the 7 wives will be different, it will be reversed with the women taking care of the man so to speak, with the man having no responsibility for them.

Also to be noted is that Raymond will have no more children, for he now has the two children which the Lord said that he would have in prophecy. (Plus the children from his first wife who I understand died many years ago.)

But also to be noted is that in the very near future, that during the war that is upon us, that there will be so very many more men killed than women, that there is most likely going to be 50 - 100 women for every man available. What then? Will not the women fight to be connected to a man?? Just a thought for you to think about. In days of old, and even not so very long ago, A woman without a husband was looked down upon, A Spinster, a whatever, unless she was a widow, and even then was shunned by many. It use to be that a woman without a man to take care of her needs, like a husband, or son, had almost no way to make a living, no place to live, no way to get food, clothing etc., except to turn to prostitution just to stay alive.


So what are your thoughts about all of this? I would be interested to hear the thoughts of many of you out there. I offer many of the bible verses that plays on this, below.


With the Love of Jesus
Jack Barr



I offer the following bible verses and my notes, for your consideration.

Ge 16:1 Now Sarai Abram’s wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar. Ge 16:3 And Sarai Abram’s wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. Ge 20:11 And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife‘s sake. Ge 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. Ge 30:4 And she gave him Bilhah her handmaid to wife: and Jacob went in unto her. Ge 30:9 When Leah saw that she had left bearing, she took Zilpah her maid, and gave her Jacob to wife.

Note: It was only when the law of Moses was given to the Jews by God that there were restrictions placed upon who could marry whom, and their sexual relationships within a family. See Leviticus

Mt 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Note: this one is interesting, and is often pointed to as it saying that a man can only have one wife. But this is NOT what it says. When read carefully, we see that it speaks of Adultery, but only if a man throws out his present wife, putting her out on the street, and then takes another wife. There is nothing said here about a man taking a second wife while still keeping and maintaining the first wife. But No, I am not advocating multiple marriages without divorce. But I also cannot find any place in the bible where a man has been limited to ONLY one wife. All restrictions are on Adultery, which is one having sex, where at least one is married to someone else. So this explains the above verse. If a man divorces his wife in the eyes of man, that in the eyes of God, he is still married to her, and that is why anyone who has sex with her after that then commits adultery, and the man who put her out commits adultery because he forced her to commit adultery. ???? My reasoning may or may not be entirely correct. However we see in the above verse that there is one way in which a man (or woman) can divorce and then remarry (which includes the marriage bed, ie. Sex) without fault, and that is given as the one being put out because they committed fornication. That alone shows that the sin of adultery is not in the marriage itself. That is a thorny bush isn't it. I speak only for myself. And perhaps I have confused you even more.

Ge 4:19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. Ge 28:9 Then went Esau unto Ishmael, and took unto the wives which he had Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael Abraham’s son, the sister of Nebajoth, to be his wife. Ge 31:17 Then Jacob rose up, and set his sons and his wives upon camels; De 21:15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: 1Sa 1:2 And he had two wives; the name of the one was Hannah, and the name of the other Peninnah: and Peninnah had children, but Hannah had no children. 1Sa 25:43 David also took Ahinoam of Jezreel; and they were also both of them his wives. 1Sa 27:3 And David dwelt with Achish at Gath, he and his men, every man with his household, even David with his two wives, Ahinoam the Jezreelitess, and Abigail the Carmelitess, Nabal’s wife. 2Sa 5:13 And David took him more concubines and wives out of Jerusalem, after he was come from Hebron: and there were yet sons and daughters born to David. 1Ki 11:3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart. 1Ch 4:5 And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah. 1Ch 7:4 And with them, by their generations, after the house of their fathers, were bands of soldiers for war, six and thirty thousand men: for they had many wives and sons. 1Ch 8:8 And Shaharaim begat children in the country of Moab, after he had sent them away; Hushim and Baara were his wives. 1Ch 14:3 And David took more wives at Jerusalem: and David begat more sons and daughters. 2Ch 11:21 And Rehoboam loved Maachah the daughter of Absalom above all his wives [/color] and his concubines: (for he took eighteen wives, and threescore concubines; and begat twenty and eight sons, and threescore daughters.) 2Ch 11:23 And he dealt wisely, and dispersed of all his children throughout all the countries of Judah and Benjamin, unto every fenced city: and he gave them victual in abundance. And he desired many wives. 2Ch 13:21 But Abijah waxed mighty, and married fourteen wives, and begat twenty and two sons, and sixteen daughters. 2Ch 24:3 And Jehoiada took for him two wives; and he begat sons and daughters.

Note the Following:

1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 1Ti 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife , ruling their children and their own houses well.

Both of these verses are pointed to by many as saying that a Bishop, or a Deacon, can only have been married once to one wife, and cannot be either a Bishop, or a Deacon, if he had been married once and then remarried again for any reason. Ignoring that the Bible says that if a man divorces his wife for reasons of her fornication that he is then, by the Word of God, free to marry again.

However, what I see and understand in light of all the rest of the bible says about marriage and wives, I see these verses as possibly saying that a Deacon, or a Bishop, is to have only ONE wife at a time, that is, not to have multiple wives. But even so, this would only apply to men in these positions, just as The priest from Aaron on down to the present day were limited to whom they could or could not marry.

My reply is simply:

Remember the bathtub prophecy.

Yours in Christ,

BlueRiverTributaries

BlueRiverTributaries wrote:


Hi brother "Blue"

Which prophecy are you refering to??????????

There are 4 prophecies given through Ray which makes reference to a "Bathtub" and each prophecy has a different meaning in relation to that vision or occourance.. I fail to see a connection of any one of them to what is spoken of in prophecy #1860, or the comments which follow.

Please tell us just which of those four prophecies you make reference to, and also how any of those prophecies has relationship to Prophecy #1860 ????? Or to the discussion at hand??

I for one am baffled by your reference.

Could the wives also be bodies of believers (churches) that have no where to turn to after mans churches are exposed completely as fraud? And then these believers that are left of those churches have no where to turn to but someone who has the truth like Raymundo? How big is his following right now? Not to big? Maybee it will get so big that it will be unstopable. I don't care for christianity in the mainstream of this country these days. I can see the God I always thought existed in Raymundos prophecies. He doesn't fit that well with most believers I run into in the public. They get scarred when they here these things. So be it. But along this line isn't the "bride of Christ" his true believers? Thats like a "wife", and doesn't the bible mention the "adulturous woman" as being like the unfaithful church of man? A woman could be a group of believers (church)? Godsword has a very good point on the topic of wives and it appears the prophecies could also point to that, but............. I can't wait to see what happens ! In Jesus Christ. A wandering believer looking for truth.

I am not able to go onto the prophecy.org site because my ZInternet crashes when I do and I do not want to try and lose my Internet again.

I am refering to the prophecy about the bathtub where Ray is like a bathtub in the future, and my connection was that he could delegate that work that is refered to as a bathtub to his wives.

I am sorry that I am not able to find it myself.

Yours in Christ,

BlueRiverTributaries

BlueRiverTributaries wrote:


That must be prophecy #1603

1603. Occurrence given to Raymond Aguilera on 8 March 2001 at 8:30 AM. During prayer I was telling the Lord I could not go any further in my Christian walk. Since my return from Brazil I have been very tired and I just have to much work to do by myself. I also spoke to Carl and Ron this past week about my situation and that I am at a lost at what do. I told Carl that my birthday is this Monday and I just feel like hiding from the whole world and everybody, but God just keeps pushing me further and further into the Spirit. The Lord mentioned Africa while I was in Brazil, and frankly I cannot even think about another Mission Trip. I just need a little time to rest and collect my thoughts, but it does not seem like that is going to happen. For the Lord gave the following visions during my prayer time. Vision: During my prayer the Lord gave me a vision of a plastic bucket full of water with a metal handle with a White Strip of plastic in the center of the bucket handle. Prophecy: Then the Lord said, "Reymundo, you are the metal handle and you are holding up the Water for Christians to drink. Hang on My little son." Vision: Then the Lord showed me a White bathtub full of water in the air. Prophecy: Then the Lord said, "What are you going to do when the small plastic bucket changes into the White Bathtub of Water? Frankly, I do not know! This ministry, money, personal, and health problems are just too much for me right now. If I could only stop for a little while and rest, but where can one go and hide from God and the world. I guess that is all for now.

Yes that would relate. The extra six wifes being an increase in Ray's ministry. And the water he is giving out right now being his present ministry will greatly increase in the future.

Godsword,
You asked for a place in the Bible where a man is restricted to only one wife: well, look at the scripture that I posted. I do not consider the fact that polygamy was extremely common in the Old Testament times to be evidence that this is what God wants for us. If you read the Old Testament, you see that even the best of men (David, Solomon, Abraham) were doing things that were against what God wanted them to do. This speaks to the imperfection of human beings, rather than being a carte blanche for men to have multiple wives. I do think, however, that at the time of the early church it was probably not forbidden for lay people to have > 1 wife (read Timothy - the restrictions are only on church leaders) - but polygamy seems to be more of a Middle Eastern/African/Asian cultural pattern - polygamy was not that common among the ancient Romans, Greeks, or Germanic tribes, even when they were pagan (read some ancient history). I've been to Africa, polygamy is definitely normal and legal there.

Furthermore, regarding the passage of Isaiah that you've posted, I'm aware of it, and when I've read that, perhaps because I am female, what I see in it is a punishment for the proud women of Zion (with their mincing steps, etc) that they would be humiliated so badly that they would ask to be the extra wives of any man, not even asking the man to support them. If you aren't female, perhaps you cannot imagine that this is one of the worst things you could wish on anyone, a real punishment, a real humiliation. Women enjoy sharing their men about as much as men enjoy sharing their women. I think God knows how to get people where it hurts, when He wants to. I view this section of Isaiah as a warning of a punishment for Israel on par with other examples of where prophets (forgot which one) warn that the Israelites will be forced out of starvation to eat their own children. Also, elsewhere in this passage of Isaiah it is mentioned that all or most of the men in Israel will be killed (that's why the women end up in this condition). I believe this is a prophecy specific to the people of Israel at the Time of the End, NOT an argument that God wants us to be polygamous after the second coming.

That said, I'm no longer convinced Ray is a true prophet of God. Every garden variety cult leader out there starts to demand extra wives and extra sexual partners after a few years. It's almost 100% consistent, and I think a good way of measuring a religious leader's actual spiritual condition is this: if they think they are entitled to "extras" because they are so "special", they're probably a cult leader or a false religionist - ESPECIALLY if they start telling people that "God" wants them to have these extras because they are so "special". None of the good ones do this, and ALL of the bad ones do this. I'm including Joseph Smith and Mohammed in this picture. Perhaps Ray's been talking to whatever/whoever has been talking to Joseph Smith and Mohammed. It's been said also that Mohammed took extra wives to rescue them from poverty, but...any Saudi prince could say that about his harem, too.

Jesus also said that in heaven, people are not given in marriage.

Too bad, but I'm really no longer on board with this.

Hello melanie,

I have some questions.

Have you sought the Lord by the Holy Spirit for the meaning when He says that He is going to give Ray wives?

Have you sought the Holy Spirit for confirmation that Ray is a true prophet of Jesus Christ?

Are you not lead by the Holy Spirit?

This situation is the same as that in the scriptures where Jesus speaks to His disciples about His flesh and blood, that they must eat of Him.

It is recorded in John 6.

Many of his disciples grumbled about it saying, "It is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?"

Many of them turned back because of it. Because they decided in themselves what He meant, and could not accept it, but they had no understanding, and no trust in Jesus Christ.

They did not understand when the Lord said, "The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life."

They did not understand, just as you do not understand when the Lord speaks of wives for Ray, and you grumble for the same reasons the disciples grumbled, saying, "This is a hard teaching, who can accept it?"

The Lord's words are spirit and they are life.

Where is your trust in Jesus Christ?

-
Noah Kinderknecht

G always comes BEFORE P.

Why then do people refer to P as if he was before G?

The Bible starts at page 1 not at page 1500!

That's how so many people are programmed!

(Do you understand this? Who told you otherwise?)

In fact I've seen people even putting the words of their printed Bible before God's Words!

Let me quote from a prophecy on this forum :

"Focus on Jesus Christ of Nazareth and ONLY Jesus Christ of Nazareth. That is where the Power is, that is where the Glory is."

Why then do some people place their faith and focus on something or someone else other than Jesus Christ of Nazareth?

Just because we can't accept something doesn't mean it's not true.

What's happening is we are entering a time when what's not is becoming is , or in other words what is black is becoming white and vice versa.

The truth hurts and it sets up a stumbling block to people who think they've got the truth and the pretenders.

I know truth hits the mind like a brick and you fight with it but then like Jacob we should wrestle with it and come to accept that God's Perfect Will is perfect.

Look to God not man.

Look to God and His Word and His Word in the Bible. (Notice: I did not say: Look to God and His Word and the Bible - there's a difference and such a lot to be gained by searching this out).

Rather I would say it's because Raymond is getting seven wives that one should consider seriously that he IS a true prophet (and I know he is).

Wrestle with that one in your minds and get the truth.

James 1:5-6
-- But if any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God who gives to all generously and ungrudgingly, and he will be given it. But he should ask in faith, not doubting.....(Not doubting: that God has a perfect plan, that God is in control, that all things work together for good, that He can and will reveal His truth about any situation)(Are we subject to His will or Him to Ours? Just because we do not understand does not make something incorrect.) 1Cor 13:12 - .....At present I know partially; then I shall know fully as I am fully known. (I am known fully to God because He looks at the heart and His viewpoint is an Eternal one, is ours? For me it's not, yet!)

19 So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts.
20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation,
21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

Hello my friends

there is a lot of interesting talk here. Alot of soundness. Your post was right on noah conserning melanie.

Something sorta stood out in my mind about these wives. In the bible we know a wife to be a woman who is One with a man. They are One flesh. We also know that we are to be One with God , even His Bride. I believe that these wives are Children of God who are also prophets , or maybe even apstles. What we do know is that God has Chosen them , and we know that God speaks directly to all of His Chosen.

Now whether they are women or men , one thing is for sure in my mind , they will be of One spirit and One mind with ray. They are One with him , his wives.



It seems that not only prophets of God will be helping ray , but also God will use many people. But it stands out here , " whether they are wives " It just seems to me that these wives are True Servants of the Lord God who Hear from Him directly. We know that God has placed raymond to be sort of a General. Or a Head. So to speak to the body of Chirst. Its a position of Athourity , we aslo know hes an Apostle of the Lord God.

Women as its written are to be subject to there husbands. Im reminded of Elisha and the prophets and people that followed with him and helped him. It seems clear in my mind that raymond is chosen to be such a one by God. That there may be order to His army. Surly Christ is Head of All.






Here we see that they are chosen. Here also we see why raymond has been given such a rank , because hes to keep his mouth shut and speak only what the Lord wants to say. Hes speaking for the Lord.



they are Children of God indeed , covered in Gods Blood and standing in Faith and obedience of Gods Word which is to be in the Armor of God. Everything i stated to you is what i believe , but KNOW NOT FOR SURE. Its my guess. It rings true in my heart for the most part. But i guess we will all see soon enough , for these wives are going to be sending raymond pictures.