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Identifying a false prophet 6 years, 6 months ago #1974

Hello everybody,
I am wondering about identifying what a false prophet is. I know that in the end times that there will be many false prophets out there, trying to turn us away from God. I know that I've visited a few websites saying that they were a "prophet" but I don't really know, unless I judge them by their fruits. Some have these flashy websites with their pictures posted on them and I think that they are out to make money. And I know that the Holy Spirit is telling me that a true prophet isn't out to make themselves stand out, or famous. I'm constantly in the word and studying to arm myself with the full armor of God so I can be ready to judge according to His word. I pray daily for the Holy Spirit to give me wisdom so that I may gain knowledge in the word. I guess I'm a little concerned because I had a dream of a person surrounded by a crowd of people and he was doing amazing things, like healing a broken arm. It was real fuzzy because I couldn't see too well in the crowd. Any ideas?
In Christ,
Laydebug1

Identifying a false prophet 6 years, 6 months ago #1976

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Re: Identifying a false prophet 6 years, 6 months ago #1978

Prophets:

Thomas Gibson
Raymond Aguilera
Dimtri Duduman

These men are prophets. There are enough prophecies from these 3 men to paint a picture of what the future holds... i would stay away from others.

Re: Identifying a false prophet 6 years, 6 months ago #1979

Jeremiah 28.7-9

Nevertheless hear thou now this word that I speak in thine ears, and in the ears of all the people;
The prophets that have been before me and before thee of old prophesied both against many countries, and against great kingdoms, of war, and of evil, and of pestilence.
The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the LORD hath truly sent him.
"Love cures everything..."

Re: Identifying a false prophet 6 years, 6 months ago #1985

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oyster_777 wrote:
Prophets:

Thomas Gibson
Raymond Aguilera
Dimtri Duduman

These men are prophets. There are enough prophecies from these 3 men to paint a picture of what the future holds... i would stay away from others.


Agreed! Yours in Christ, Stephanie

Re: Identifying a false prophet 5 years, 8 months ago #2671

I am wondering if Thomas Gibson should be considered a true prophet.

Reason: Book 2 of his prophecies, 2001-2004, at http://www.telusplanet.net/public/tsgibson/book2.html , includes these two prophecies:

2002 10 10.1
Hear the word of the Lord. Canada will lose its ability to balance their budgets because of the downturn and crash of the economy.

Therefore, I have stated by this My word that there will be no more balanced budgets. I will bring so much debt to Canada that they will marvel at this problem; and I will never again, from this moment on, allow the budget to be balanced.

So I will end the prosperity of Canada.


"From this moment on" would seem to indicate that after 2002, Canada would never have another balanced budget. This is not true. Here is a quote from http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/budget2005/ :

"Finance Minister Ralph Goodale delivered the Liberals' eighth straight balanced budget Wednesday, with promises to spend billions of dollars on military, national day care and cities, as well as offering some measure of tax relief."

This took place on June 22, 2005.

2003 12 7.1

In the Name of Jesus this country [Canada] will go far to the left in politics. The right wing will flounder and not succeed. They [the new right-wing Conservative Party] will never be in power. I have anointed the Liberals as leaders for elections to come because this country must be judged, and they are My tools to accomplish this. You will see the Liberals and the NDP as the main parties in parliament in the years to come.
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I live in Canada, and Stephen Harper, leader of that "new right-wing Conservative Party" was elected on January 23, 2006. He has now been prime minister for seven months. This would seem to contradict "the new-right wing Conservative Party will never be in power"! Also, his government seems to be surprisingly popular. He is still ahead of all other parties in the polls.

Since some of Thomas Gibson's words have not come true, unless I am reading his prophecies wrong, should he be considered a true prophet?

Re: Identifying a false prophet 5 years, 8 months ago #2672

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For your first reason, when he says "from this moment on" I take the "moment", as when the economy does crash...not the actual moment he spoke those words. So it depends on how you interpret the word moment I guess, but when I first read it I interprete from the moment it crashes on.

As for the second, he says in the years to come....is it 2 years, 8 years, or 100 years...we won't know. He never gives a date, so I don't think you could say that it hasn't come true yet.

Sometimes it takes years and years for events to happen, and you will notice most prophets don't give dates. The thing is, if God gave specific dates then people would repent a minute before they KNEW it was going to happen.

These are only my interpretations though.
Yours in Christ, Stephanie

Re: Identifying a false prophet 5 years, 8 months ago #2673

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Hi Elnanorel,

I do not know the politics of Canada, so I cannot speak to the questions you ask.

However I have other questions which are rising within me. And I can only base these questions on what I know of American Politics.

Is the Liberals party the party which is controlling the Nation of Canada?? Or is it a minority party?

Has the Balanced Budget been accepted and implemented in Canada each of those 8 years?? Or has it been rejected in some or all of those years??

Is the leader of that "new right-wing Conservative Party in the controlling Party of Canada, or is he of a minority party??


In America we have 3-5 political parties at any given time, sometimes more. And for any one of those parties to actually have control of the Country, they must hold the majority of seats in both the House, and the Senate, plus have a sitting President of that same party. That very seldom happens, and has not happened very often in the history or America.

The usual is to have the House controlled by one party, and the Senate controlled by another party, and the President of America could be from any party. This situation does not give control to any party.

I wonder if the same situation plays out the same way in Canada?? If so, just because the Nation's leader is of the new right-wing Conservative Party, does not automatically make that party the controlling party.

As I say, I am not of Canada, thus I have no clear understanding of the Political situation there. thus I can only raise more questions, and cannot give any answers.

On the finances, the Balanced Budget, I have to ask the question. Even though one party in Canada submits a Balanced Budget for each year, Has that Balanced Budget been accepted by the Government as a whole, and has been used in each of those years???? If not, then the fact of submitting a Balanced Budget does not in itself mean that the Government has a balanced Budget.

In America, there has been times when one party has submitted a Suggested Balanced Budget, and tries to have it voted in. However there has been very few years when a Balanced Budget has been accepted by the entire Government.

So before I could make such a judgment as you are asking for, I would have to have very much more information about your Government and what it has or has not done in the last few years.

Without that knowledge, I would only be jumping to a wrong conclusion based on imperfect information.

Understand that I am not giving any answer to your question, for I am not qualified to make that judgment, and only one who lives in Canada, and is very familiar with the Politics of Canada, and of the workings of Canada’s Budget can make that kind of judgment.

Re: Identifying a false prophet 5 years, 8 months ago #2674

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Conservative party does not have majority but minority.

They have 124 seats of a total of 308.

God Bless

Sylvain

Re: Identifying a false prophet 5 years, 8 months ago #2675

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Storzok wrote:
For your first reason, when he says "from this moment on" I take the "moment", as when the economy does crash...not the actual moment he spoke those words. So it depends on how you interpret the word moment I guess, but when I first read it I interprete from the moment it crashes on.

You are right about this.

2002 10 10.1
Hear the word of the Lord. Canada will lose its ability to balance their budgets because of the downturn and crash of the economy.
Therefore, I have stated by this My word that there will be no more balanced budgets. I will bring so much debt to Canada that they will marvel at this problem; and I will never again, from this moment on, allow the budget to be balanced.
So I will end the prosperity of Canada.


2002 09 28.2
When the crash comes I will bury Canada in debt. It thinks it is doing good economically, however, I shall soon turn this nation’s economy around. So says the Lord.


And the signal for the economy crash is great wrath on the United States.

2002 05 06.2
When you see great wrath coming on the United States know that I am bringing down the economy.


God Bless

Sylvain
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