About Terri Schiavo

I know that what I am about to say about Terri Schiavo will be rejected by almost everyone. But I do not care. For when someone hears what they do not want to hear, they usually will reject it out of hand. So Be it. Believe as you wish to believe, or believe the truth. It’s your choice.

You are many good people out there, and this is not in response to anything that you may or may not have posted anywhere. I say here that this is Not a Salvation Issue.

I can feel for Terri Shiavo’s parents, who will not let go. I can also feel for her husband.

Let me say at this point that it is safe to say that 99.9999999 percent of all who will read this has never been involved directly with a family who has been in this situation, and most of all, have never themselves even been in the same room with one who is in a “Persistent Vegetative State” or more commonly know as being “Brain Dead”! And that being the case most will accept, and believe, all of the lies which has come down out of the mouth of people who know even less than you do.

I can say that I have been involved with a family who had a son who was declared “Brain Dead” – “ A Vegetative state”. I have been in the hospital room with this man, and his family many times over a course of months. The mother just could not let go of him. The hospital even let her stay with him in the Intensive Care room, setting up a special bed there for her.

When praying for this man I could only pray for the Lord’s total will to be done. When praying for the mother, the prayer was for the Lord God to grant her peace in her heart and soul. Then the Lord said to me “ Do not pray for Paul (the son, the man) because he is here with Me. I took him to be with me a long time ago. That is only an empty shell that is laying there.” Then one day the Lord said “ I will stop his heart soon”. The Lord stopped his heart two months later.

For the Mother, the Lord had me tell her “The Lord has taken Paul home to be with Him a long time ago, You know that Paul is with the Lord right now. He is not in this body you see before you. You know that, so it is time to let go.” And she would answer that she knew that was true that Paul was in heaven, and not in that body, and crying, yet she could not let go of that shell that has once been her son Paul, for she had taken care of him for almost 60 years. I continued going to the hospital to pray with and for this woman who knew her son was not in the shell of a body that was before her, but still she could not let go and let the doctors cut off all life support. So I understand what Terri’s Mother is going through.

When I see the pictures of Terri, I see the same that I saw with Paul. She was NOT responding. The pictures that you have been shown of Terri with her mother and family, are so deliberately posed. The same pictures shown over and over again, while the loving parents try to tell you what you should see, and what you should ignore. They are not showing you the pictures they would have to have been taken, which they did take showing her totally unaware of them, for they had to have cut out those parts of the films, just to get these few seconds of film they did show, and remember that these pictures are obviously posed for just the effect they wanted. But by having been with Paul, I can tell what is happening there. Terri did not respond to them in those pictures as they would have you believe. Terri was seeing NOTHING. I watched those same kind of facial responses on Paul, they happened randomly, with no one near him.

I understand the Parents hope against impossible odds that God will send their daughter back to them. But it will not happen!!! The parents are screaming at God that “You cannot have her, she is ours, We will not let her go” But she is already gone.

But you should understand that there is not one other person out there who is screaming for her feeding tube to be put back in who cares the least little bit about Terri, Every one of them has their own agenda, their own reason for being there, they are pushing their own thing for their own reasons. Today they yell Terri, Terri, but tomorrow they will be some place else yelling some thing else, and Terri will have been totally forgotten by them.

If they cared so much for Terri, then why don’t they care about all the other thousands of families who go through the same thing every year. But who wants to hear that?? They don’t. You don’t. The parents who send their little children forward to be arrested just so they can brag later that they did something. The pat their children on the head and tell them how great it was to have been arrested. They had their moment of fame. I listened to a woman speak on the radio on Wed the 30th of March. She was so proud that she went from Ohio down to Florida, where she got herself arrested for carrying water toward the building that Terri was in. (knowing that it was impossible to get in) Oh she was so proud that she was arrested, then having done what she went there for, she promptly went back home, because that was what she went down there for, just so she could brag about what she had done for Terri. But she didn’t do anything for Terri, she did it all for herself, for her bragging rights, and that was just what she was doing on the radio talk show, bragging about how she went down there to be arrested and to be on TV.

The people out there crying out that Terri is being tortured, that she is in tremendous pain because she has not had any food for a week or more. Those people do not know, and they are being led by people who do not know, else they are being led by people who do know, but have chosen to tell these people lies to gain the response they wish this crowd to have in front of the TV cameras.

I can not speak for you or anyone else, but I have NEVER experience any pain when I have fasted (for those who do not know the word FAST, it means to Not Eat!!) for a day, a week, or for several weeks. The truth is that the longer I went without eating the less desire I had to eat. There was never any pain, and not even discomfort.

From My experience on fasting, I can tell you that lies are being told when they tell you that Terri is suffering from not having that feeding tube in her. All of you who fast for the Lord know if I speak the truth here or not.

Terri Schiavo is not there!!! She died 15 years ago, and went to her judgment before the Holy Lord God at that time. All that is there now is an empty shell.

Take an egg out of it’s shell and then lets keep that shell, and tell ourselves that we still have that egg because we still have the shell. That is what is happening now.

Now I do not know by what judgment that Terri Schiavo was judged by God when she stood before Him. I cannot say where she went.

But I do know that most of those who are out there screaming for the feeding tube to be put back in are claiming they are Christians, but they wouldn’t know Christ if He walked up to them and kissed them. They are doing it for worldly reasons, and not one of them cares about the Glory of God in this situation. Every time I have heard them quote scriptures, I can tell that they have taken them out of context and have placed their own interpretation upon them, to fit what they are calling for in this situation.

Why are they not crying out “Lord, Your Will be done, Not Mine.” For they are crying out instead “MY Will; MY Will”.

Raymond was given a prophecy about Terri Schiavo.
Occurrence given to Raymond Aguilera on 25 March 2005 at 11:30 AM

During prayer for Terri Schiavo, the Lord gave me a vision of a water hose being connected to a water valve.

Then the Lord said, “The Water Hose is being connected and here comes the Salt.”

What is that water?? It is Not what would be fed through that feeding tube!! The Water here is the Living Water, which is the Word of God. And Salt is a preservative, so the living water will bring the preservation. Not to Terri, but to us. When you stand on the Word of God, when you are standing on God’s Living Water, then you Will be preserved. Forget what man has been saying and start listening to God.

And from the Holy Lord God Himself:
Know and understand that Terri Schiavo in NOT in that shell of a body, for I have taken her out of it many years ago, So Saith the Holy Lord God Jehovah. BE not tricked by the demons who are creating this circus surrounding Terri, Saith the Lord. If you know My Word, you know this to be true, Saith the Lord God.

There you have it, now you can believe whatever it is that You Want to believe. I have given you what I know to be God’s true word, even knowing that many will reject it. So be it. For the lie is easier to believe than the truth.

Please feel free to respond to this as you feel that you should, however be advised that although I will read what you may post, I will not enter into any debate, nor will I give any response to whatever it is that you post in response to this letter.

As I started to post this message, it was anounced that Terri Schiavo had passed away. Now the fight will continue with where and how to bury her.

Thank you Jack for shedding some light on this subject. I have viewed a video of her showing her eyes moving and such. After reading an article about her condition and comparing it to the video, I have to agree that she is already dead. What is happening is just motor reflex. I know they are trying to say that her eyes are following the balloon, but it is just twitching back and forth. Well I am glad that this subject can be put to rest and hopefully the family can move on.

Thank you Rev. Barr for this message.
You shed light on many things.

I believe that the husband loved her and it is sad all the bad things they say about him.

God Bless

Sylvain

This is what Matthew 8:1-3 says:



This is NOT what Matthew 8:1-3 says:



We have just witnessed the United States government thirst and starve a woman in her young 40's to death. I'm ashamed to be an American.

The antichrist spirit has taken over the USA. Here's how I know that: WWJD? What Would Jesus Do? Jesus Christ cared for and healed the sick and weak. HE didn't kill them because they were weak! So the antichrist spirit will do the opposite of what Jesus Christ would do. Rather than offering Terri love and help (Terri was denied theropy), her husband and the courts starved her calling it "mercy." Thank God that Jesus didn't work under that same philosophy!

The courts and US government became so focused on following the Law that they forgot what the purpose of the Law was. If this sounds familiar to you, then know that it is. This is exactly what the Pharisees and Sadduces did when they had Jesus Christ condemned to death. They were so focused on the letter of the law that they forgot the whole purpose for the law, which is to love God and one another. The letter of the law kills, but the love of Christ saves! The judges and everyone who supported the "mercy" killing of Terri don't seem to realize that they are guilty, sick, and dying as well. If they consider mercy to be killing the weak, then God should have killed us the moment Adam and Eve sinned. We are all sinners, and we are guilty of breaking the Laws of God. Therefore, these sinful bodies are sick and dying. We are weak, dirty, and guilty before Almighty God! If God's idea of mercy was to kill the weak, then we're all dead!

The good news is that God's idea of mercy is not killing the guilty, weak, sick, and dying; but rather SAVING them! God's mercy and love for us (the guilty, sick, weak, dying people) cost HIS only Begotten Son's life! Instead of killing the sinners, God became sin for us and took our punishment and death on the cross! HE then rose again 3 days later for our justification so that everyone who believes on Jesus Christ will have eternal life!!! So once again, thank God that HIS mercy is not the same kind of "mercy" that the USA used to starve Terri to death.

But know this: God will not be mocked. What soever a man, woman, nation sows-he, she, the nation shall reap!

Since the United States considers killing the weak "mercy" (I've seen many polls and most agree with what happened to Terri-even many Christians), then God will apply the same standard to them! God will look down from HIS throne in Heaven and see the inhabitants of the United States who agree with this philosophy of "mercy" killing; and then God will see how sinful, sick, and deadly that they are and HE will "mercifully" wipe them off the face of the earth!

Jesus Christ came to heal and care for the sick, weak, and dead. The Beast of Revelation (antichrist) will come to "mercifully" kill the sick, weak, and dead (and any others that might be in his way).

While I appreciate the acts of Congress and the President to save Terri; they backed down once they saw the poll results saying that they were wrong. The could have done more, but the fear of man seized them. Matthew 10:28 says not to fear man, but to fear GOD. President Bush is currently the most powerful man in the world, and all he did was offer some comments of "support" for Terri's right to live. President Bush said today that the strong must stand up the weak. He condemned himself with that statement. He could have done much more to save Terri, but he didn't.

So everyone who supported the "mercy" killing of Terri better not cry when God starts to "mercifully" kill them because they are weak, guilty, sick, and dead in the eyes of our holy and righteous God. Only the blood of Jesus Christ can save us.

The soul of the United States has been tested, and this nation failed the test. God can use the weakest things to judge a nation, and HE has. This nation is not only guilty of killing the unborn, but also the handicapped. Also, this idea of "mercy" killing is now spreading. The Dutch government is now looking into killing INFANTS, mentally ill, and demented. The spirit of antichrist is spreading, and it will manifest into the Beast of Revelation (THE antichrist) very soon.

People in this nation better get ready for a flood of judgment. The death angel is coming. Get into the ark of Salvation now. Get covered by the blood of Christ now. The USA has been measured and it found lacking. The time of judgment is upon us.

May God be with the family of Terri Schiavo, and have real mercy on all those who prayed, fasted, and mourned for her. But for the rest...

But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream.-Amos 5:24

By the way, my grandfather was in a situation where he was dying of cancer. The hospital began to reduce his nutrients so that he would die quicker at the approval of his guardians. So while I'm not familiar with exactly what Terri's family has gone through, I do have an idea about it.

WWJD??? What Would Jesus Do? If you honestly think he would starve Terri to death, then so be it. But also remember Matthew 25:41-46, specifically verses 42 and 45

I confirm all that [God spoke through] Rev Barr said.

All this prophecy stuff is making my head spin.

How do you know if the Lord says something to you like this?

ld50negative1 wrote:


Just test everything with the Word of God (Bible). God will not contradict HIMSELF, and what has been will be again (Ecclesiates 1:9). The true Word of God shouldn't make your head spin. The true Word of God is a sword that will divide the soul from the spirit (Hebrews 4:12).

If anything makes your head spin, then it's most likely not from God because God's Word if sharp and precise. You'll either accept it or reject it. Confusion is from the devil, so if anything confuses you, then seek God's truth from the Bible and prayer. Even some anointed Christians can hear wrong sometimes, so test everything (1 John 4:1).

God Bless

I'm just wondering something. If this is true, then can you explain 1 John 5:8? From my understanding, this says that the Spirit, the water, and the blood agreeing in one form a living earthly body? How can the body live without the Spirit?

Also what about Genesis 2:7 which says that a body consists of dust, breath, and the soul? Man became a living soul when the body was created and then brought to life. So how can a body be living without the soul when this Scripture seems to indicate that a living body is what makes a living soul? As long as you have a living body, it appears that you also have a soul living in that body. Of course, when God takes his breath of life back and the body returns to dust, then the soul will move unto eternity in God's presence of out of HIS presence. But I don't see anything in the Scripture to indicate that a body can be living without the soul. That would compromise the fact that we are created in God's Image (Genesis 1:26). Just as God is a Trinity of the Father, Word (Son), and Spirit; so to are we made in HIS image with the water, the blood, and the Spirit (1 John 5:7-.

Also, look at Acts 5:5-10. When Ananias and Sapphira gave up the ghost (or soul), their bodies died. They did not continue to live in a "brain dead" state while their souls were tormented in Hell. Their bodies died because there was no longer anyone inhabiting it. As you said and the Scriptures say, the body is nothing more than a shell or tabernacle for the soul. If the soul leaves the body, then that means the body will die unless something else inhabits it (ie. Holy Spirit while someone may be taken for an out of body experience or even demonic powers). But without a soul to posses the body, then the body can't live.

Help me out here if I'm wrong.

God Bless

i grew up poor , and im a skinny man , when i go hungry i hurt , i get real sorrowfull and sad, and feel like im not loved. my body begins to hurt real bad and its tormenting , and thats just going a day without food.

but of a truth i have fasted before for the Lord , and truly as jack says is true , my body had strenght that before it would not , even to the point were i did not want to eat or feel safe to eat , and indeed it was a spiritual experience , and the Lord talked with me during ,

i spoke this to confirm what jack said about fasting , but im not sure what it has to do with terris case. If the Lord says shes gone then shes gone. Why are people so saddend? there are starving people everywhere , check your own neiborhood.

If you dont see any now just wait til this war comes.

a while back by the fear of the Lord , { i must say that im not for sure if i did things the way i should , but out of fear i tried to do it anyways} i did as God commanded through ray , to seek my brothers and sisters in the street. I did this once , i didnt do it anymore cause i dont think i was ready but doing more harm than good.

any how to the point , i started walking down town to the city and and the first person i seen was in an ally , i walked by the ally and inside i debated withen myself , knowing i should go and talk to him about the Lord , but i was afraid and i really didnt want to , { im shy} so i forced myself .

well as i talked to Him telling Him the Lord spoke to me and such , He told me that when He was younger the Lord would give him visions. He said they locked him up in a mental hospital for what he spoke.

He spoke of famine , he said men will eat there own children , he said that he could still smell the flesh burning , he said your neighbor is your worst enemy.
at that time i thought this would come from the weather change that is spoken of in rays prophecys. but now i see its from this war. which i believe will change the weather . from cold to hot and hot to cold , and so on and so forth as written. from this nuclear winter , which i believe is also called the thick darkness.

im a man who trust in the Word of the Lord , if He speaks it i believe it. He told us not to worry for what we will eat , or drink , or what we will wear. He will provide for us. of that im sure. And i believe He takes delight in. because the Lord has not told me , for i sought , and even through the prophets here it has not been spoken that i have read , that the Lord siad to stock up on food or water.

If it were not for the promise that He would feed us , i would be in dispair. i know ive been born again , but i hope that i will be babtized with the Spirit , for this calling upon me is to great for me to walk. I know He made us for a reason , and in this hour what could the reason be save to lead many to Him? and to prepare His people for His second comeing.

For some reason withen me i dont have hope of seeing this comeing , though i havent heard it from the Lord i feel my days are comeing to an end. Forgive me for writeing so much , but i have no friends. Noone to talk to , no one to give me counsel , and the counsel withen i can no longer trust. for a pride that i had not known of has been working in me. i fear it has led me to foolishness.
i need to find my voice again , my faith. my hope. but all i can see is darkness aproaching. i can feel it , the gloominess. can you feel it? like the calm before the Storm.
Fear i grip not , though i can feel its tempting call , i do not dispair , for it profits nothing. But my fear is the Judgment of the Lord , that i didnt seek Him as i should have.
ive seen dreams in which come to pass before my eyes. things ive been shown i sorrow in. for ive seen in dreams my brothers being killed. a pain no man should know. for i weap for the souls of my loved ones , because i cannot even save my own. these burdens are so heavy , my soul weaps. longing for love and peace. longing for hope. and still the darkness draws nigh. Use me to be hope , use me to despence peace. help my voice to cry out . pray for my faith.
oh that i had not been born to see these days , that i should not know this sorrow. , help me.help me

"If it were not for the promise that He would feed us , i would be in dispair. i know ive been born again , but i hope that i will be babtized with the Spirit , for this calling upon me is to great for me to walk. I know He made us for a reason , and in this hour what could the reason be save to lead many to Him? and to prepare His people for His second comeing. "

As I understand, if you're born again you have already been baptized in the Spirit... you shouldn't worry about that.

I really feel from what you are coming from, the sorrow and sadness and despair you feel when you can't find solutions to the questions in your mind when no one around you understands... no one that can't truely counsel you...

Remember Paul asked the Lord 3 times to remove the thorn in his side (the tormenting spirit) and the Lord said "My grace is sufficient for you for my power is made perfect in weakness" (not a direct quote, just from what i remember and this scripture came to my mind yesterday because I have dug my mind into a grave the past month with questions and doubts that should not be had in a believer's mind).

I love you brother and I will pray for you.

I can't say that I've seen these horrible things or even read or felt about them... I can just say the Lord is always with you never will He leave you never will He forsake you.

I send my love and prayers to you st_joel

thanks for you counsel and your prayers and incouragement ,

im not as smart as i should be , but im waiting for the power from on High.

to be born of the Spirit doesnt nececarly mean to be baptized in the Spirit .

consider the Lord Jesus Christ , born of the Holy Ghost , until His time came , then was He baptized with the Holy Spirit , and His ministries began.

Ive been born again , and have grown a little, im looking in hope for a power to come upon me which will do as it did for the apostles , give them courage to speak to the large crowds without fear of death. or fear of anything , but they moved in the power of the Holy Ghost doing works wich gloryfy God .
I need that help , that strenght , that power from above to use me. For i of myself cannot , even in the good intentions of my heart , do good or as God would have me , without the Holy Spirit , my works are of the flesh.

I know the Holy Spirit is with me , maybe your right and im wrong about this , but i thought to be babtized i would be brought a gift of the Spirit , and also speaking in tounges. {personaly i hope its chineese or russian, for that would profit me and those invadeing that i could be a blessing to them}.
What ever gifts the Lord will give me , i will use to His Glory. But it seems my time is not yet.
May the Lord use me to the fullness of His Joy , and if it be i die for Him , that He give me the strenght as He gave His Son to die for me. In Jesus name , so be it.

your brother in Christ
st_joel

I too will pray for you st_joel. Take comfort in John 16:33. We can't earn our way into Heaven, so we must fall back on God's grace. We are saved by faith in Jesus Christ, and with that faith in the Son of God, we have peace with God (Romans 5:1). Praise the Lord!

The key in these times is to love God and one another. If we do that, we will make it to New Jerusalem D D

God Bless.

st_joel wrote:


St_Joel I understand what you are saying when are waiting for the power of the Holy Spirit come down you as he did with the apostles. I have this knowing in my heart that the Holy Spirit is indewelling on the inside of me.
So you are not alone out here who is waiting on the God to baptize you with his Holy Spirit and the gifts that he wants you to have so that can be a blessing to the Body of Chirst and the rest of mankind. I have this anyday now attitude in my waiting on the Holy Spirit. I know when he baptize me it is going to be special to me.

give them courage to speak to the large crowds without fear of death. or fear of anything , but they moved in the power of the Holy Ghost doing works wich gloryfy God .

I know the Holy Spirit is with me , maybe your right and im wrong about this , but i thought to be babtized i would be brought a gift of the Spirit , and also speaking in tounges. {personaly i hope its chineese or russian, for that would profit me and those invadeing that i could be a blessing to them}.

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As my understanding, when someone is filled with the Spirit they are fully submitting to the will of the Spirit. We are constantly in battle between our new nature and our old nature (old nature which makes us afraid, doubtful, even self condemning) and so we are constantly making choices whether we are going to put death to the misdeeds of our body or follow in the will of the Spirit. I myself am struggling with trying to fully submit to the will of the Spirit so as to always be filled and therefore doing the will of God, but it's tough. I don't fully understand all the things of God, but I am struggling (as we all do) with my old nature.

When you are born again the Holy Spirit enters your body and indwells you forever. I can't remember the verse right now, but either the gospels or Acts Jesus promises the Spirit and says that it will be with you forever (I feel bad for not having references, if I find it I'll post it).

1 Peter 1:23 - Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

(Also it is a downpayment/pledge for yourself at the day of redemption when God fully "purchases" you. Ephesians 1:13-14)

Spiritual gifts are manifestations of the Spirit living inside of you. If you pray to God to help you to pray in the Spirit which is speaking in tongues (this is a debateable subject, but I believe that the gift is the Holy Ghost and that all believers can share in manifestations of that gift: tongues, interpretation etc. if you ask and trust the Spirit to give you uterrance) and believe it as already having it I believe that God will enable you to manifest it. (Tongues is prayer in the Spirit and when you do it you are not speaking to men, but to God... that's why I believe God will help you manifest it if you ask Him to).
I Corinthians chapter 12 and 14 talk about it. (I've heard from people that the translation got messed up about gifts of the Spirit in that "manifestations" in some places was changed to "gifts" and that "just as he chooses" (the man) was changed to "just as the Spirit chooses" ... I haven't researched it so don't take my word on it)

I guess only try to manifest it if you feel inspired to do so because when I first tried it I felt inspired after talking to friends about it and the realness of it today.

I'm still a little confused on all the Spiritual gifts stuff, but I'm learning...


...sorry for this being so long, hope it helps you some