Why does it seem like, the LORD God has many voices? Throughout my life, people have told me God's Will, and when I compare God's leadings to others (God's leading in their lives), they don't match up. I will follow something, and know in my heart it is from God, and then later I find out it was not God! An example of this is the church I went to that I knew 100% that God was there, and then they tried to put a demon in me.

You ask three Christians the same question about the LORD's Will on any subject, and you will indeed get three different answers.

You want to rebuke me for considering suicide, fine. But maybe I could use at the very least some understanding about WHY I was considering it, instead of a 'No you are wrong, Blue.' I understand the valley that Oyster777 is going through, as I was going through my own valley. I understand why he was considering, maybe you would like to borrow some shoes for awhile. If somebody is going through something to the point of considering suicide, perhaps they'd like some compassion and less law. It is one thing to throw the Book at them, it is understanding WHY that is quite another.

It seems like whenever I say anything meaningful here at this site, that I am rebuked for it. QUIT TRYING TO PUT ME IN A BOX! Can you guys not handle the Truth that I have found and share? Can you not accept that I am under grace and changing daily toward Jesus's image? It is just about everyone in my life (except for a few) has pointed out how I fall short on this and this. And the people that have not, have been great friends.

Have fun in the boat, guys. I choose to walk on water and sink, than to never have walked on water. So before you laugh at Peter for not having faith, remember, he walked on water, and you never did.

(Jack, this doesn't include you.)

BlueRiverTributaries

hi blue ,

I know how you feel in this matter , it seems the same has been for me , every time i think i know the Truth , it seems God corrects me and shows me , either by someone else , or by Dreams , and all sorts of ways.

Dont dispise correction blue. Love Humility , Count it an honor to be corrected , for many in this world go uncorrected. How much worse would it be for you then , to continue in false hood and have friends to tell you your doing ok ? Or to be corrected everytime you speak , to sharpen your words that you speak not acording to the way the devil wants?

NOT that im saying you do!!!

Remember Peter? who right after confessing Jesus to be the Christ , and Jesus Himself blessed peter and told him that it was because of the Father that he believed that. Jesus then spoke of His death , and peter rebuked Him. It seemed right to Peter , Peter knowing that Jesus was the Christ , spoke acording to his own understanding , saying that these horrible things would not happen to Jesus. And what did Jesus do? He sharply rebuked him!

So God do to us if we fall short of His True Word , lest we by any means be decieved or decieve others. OH How i Love Correction , in that it saves my soul from deception!!

Blue i know how you feel though , ive been to the point your at a few times in this site. I enjoy your words , and your presence here. And im sure im not the only one. Dont lose heart . Neither faint that everytime you turn around , or everytime you speak your being corrected. Niether recieve every correction either , unless of course its acording to Truth , but as far as that goes im sure God has already given you the Wisdom to do that.

As far as your question goes , from my own memory and my own understanding ( note my own ) ive come to see that the Truth is there , but finding the Full Truth is a bumby path , a harder path , not impossible , but hard for constantly we stray and need to be corrected. (remember the mountain that dimiture spoke of)We begin down the path of Truth when we confess Jesus Christ as the Son of the Liveing God , many dont go that much further down the Path. Those who press forward , not many of those reach full Truth. But would rather have there ears tickled , or they be fools and hate correction. Only with persistance , and a heart seeking for Truth, Wisdom and Understanding , will you even come close to full Truth.

And in that you will be corrected much , you will have faith manytimes in God for many differnt reasons , only to find that some of those times , it wasnt Gods will at all for you to do them. This often makes us first ashamed , and then angry with ourselfs , CAREFULL when these feelings come upon you! And at that point what is hard will show its self , for what is hard is what we must do at that point , which is contrary to what we want to do. We must humble ourselfs , and thank God for the Correction. And ask Him to continue to lead us out of deception , into His Truth.
Blue , i respond to encourage you that such is the right path , even to be corrected and rebuked , ( the Lord corrects and rebukes those whom He loves )Its how you deal with all this and what you do when you are corrected thats most important.

( note these are things things i have grown to learn and have experienced, And these things i am open to correction of , DONT take my words as Truth if you dont have Truth in you. In other Words dont let me Teach you. If you dont already know these things , Then seek the Lord for Truth of them , Or if the Lord God has shown you something differnt, Then keep not silent , but do correct me. Just be carefull with the words i speak , in my heart i hope them to be a blessing , but not always are they acording to full Truth. )

As far as the spirit of suicide , well who hasnt met him yet? I would love to share with you something that happen to me , when i brought the words of satan before the Lord , when i stood before Him Face to Face. Did i know they were the words of satan? No! But did the Lord let me know? You better believe it! The spirit of depression , sadness , sorrow , and death. Who has not know them? Any who has known them has known the words , I dont want to live anymore , i dont want to be here , i want to get away , what is this all for? And on top of that self pitty , low self esteam , all these feel good to speak of, when these spirits are upon you. And so it was that the Lord apeared to me in a dream. Why didnt you seek Me , he asked. Thats when i started to speak those words above. Boy i tell you what , you dont ever want to see the Lord angry!!! I tried to hold on to Him tried to grab Him because i was afraid , but He slipped right through my hands. Kind of reminds me of the scripture about how He slipped through the hands of huge crowds who sought to kill Him. The Truth is there is no small rebuke for such feelings and words. ONLY HARSHNESS!! Kind words only seemed to fuel my self pitty . Fear of God will wake you up!! if nothing else. And boy did i wake up when i saw the Anger of the Lord!! I learned never to speak like that again. Did i feel like that again? of Course , but im not going to speak acording to these devils anymore. It angers the Lord!!! And its not an easy thing to Anger a God who is Slow to Anger.... well at least its not a light thing.

To all those who suffer such , even these spirits that i mentioned , i know your pain , ive suffered it . It is possible to not speak or live acording to how you feel , these devils if resisted will eventualy flee from you , if for but only a season . The Key here is to understand that this is a battle in the Mind . Feelings and emotions , Vs the Word of the Lord. Who will win? well the battle is in your hands, its up to you. Now that i have brought this to light , it may be easer for you to battle.

That is to say if you know how to battle , which is more words i could speak , and i imagine that if it were so, i would be here all day typeing. But surely i would be speaking of things , that anyone who actualy reads them , will already know , and even more so than me.

As of now ive been fighting another battle , well , not actualy fighting , just holding on for dear life , havent really learned how to over come the ones who are comeing against me now , but the Lord will teach me. As He tought me how to over come the others. At first it always seems hard , and painfull. But after you have seen that faith in the Word of the Lord prevails , then the next time your faith is more sure. And your paitence is there , ready to suffer however long the attack. Knowing without doubt the outcome of the battle. Longsuffering , Paitence , Faith , Meekness , Selfcontrol , these are things we practice , and things that Grow in us when satan comes against us( and they are the only way to over come satan), And did i not rightly say , Satan is a blessing to us? Yea if we do what we are suposed to do.

For these things are the Likness of the Father, the Fruit of the Spirit , the Character of God Almighty.

I dont want to write anymore right now , im under attack. I guess its time to practice patience , longsuffering , and self control. I write , and i write , but i harly ever hit the submit button. I pray that the Father corrects me. And lets me decieve no man. This has been the words in my heart , Im not sure if this answers your question. Although sometimes the answer to our questions are not often as we think they would be.

God bless you my brother and thx for posting this , for i know exaclty how you feel. And i hope my words havent been grievious to you
your brother
ken

blue i only told you what i was to tell you ,a few years ago god asked me to tell my aunt something and i didn't because i thought she would think i was crazy she then died without me telling her and god took away my ability to discern which was very great at the time,i was able to look at someone i didn't know and know what was bothering them in there lives and instantly pray for that person for some people have no one to pray for them ,it took alot of years before i was able to discern again ,i had to prove my faith to myself for the lord already knew what i would do,i'm only trying to help you and your still in my daily prayers whether you want or not
yours in christ mark