Wisdom , Grace , and Mercy be granted from the Lord
For what are we without these?
Im hesitent to respond. I ask that the Lord guide my words. Acording to His Kindness and Wisdom.
first i would like to post these scriptures. That with all you may see the point of the matter.
Proverbs 4:7
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
Proverbs 11:12
He that is void of wisdom despiseth his neighbour: but a man of understanding holdeth his peace.
James 1:5
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
1 Timothy 5
1Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
2The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.
17Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
18For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.
19Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
20Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
21I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
2 Thimothy 2 22Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
23But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
24And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
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Im young , i lack much wisdom and understanding , i seek knowelge and read the scriptures , but hardly do i fully understand them.
I came here in this site a few months back. And carried with me also my beliefs. In speaking my beliefs i was rebuked and corrected. To both my shame and my joy. After being corrected i imideitly did not recieve the new knowlege that i was given , but instead asked the Lord and sought after His Wisdom , that with all i should not lean on my own understanding.
And in this Jack( who instructs us to seek God for wisdom in all that he says , and tells no man to follow him , but to follow God) , who is 71 years old , ( not the young man , who by the way was NOT a wolf , but rather a victim of spiritual pride , that ray posted that the Father said) even this jack had corrected me much , and lead me out of the way of much deseption , as i sought the Lord acording to his Words.
Jacks responces are to the point and without wavering , because he gets his knowlege from God , and leans not to his own understanding. So he speaks Gods word as God would have him speak it , to the point!
How do we know that he gets his knowlege from God? Read his words , then find the fault ! its as simple as that. If his words are not acording to Truth , then for one , the spirit withen me would not testify of him , also the scriptures would be clearly against what he says.
Jack whom you judge and know not. Even he has been talking with the Lord for some 15 years now ,( give or take a few years acording to what he has witnessed) He is an elder , and indeed has been a great blessing to me.
He has rebuked me , corrected me , delivered me from the snare of the devil. He has edified me , comforted me in the Faith , and been a friend to talk to. Not to mention the giveing of the wisdom , which God has given him about things to come to pass. And of the many deceptions that we all carry with us .
He indeed is worthy of double honor i see , that paul was speaking of , and with all , not to be mis judged. But im fully confident , that if you had any question about anything jack has said , then surely he will explain to you with the scriptures. And as you ask God for Wisdom and Seek Understanding from the Living God , you will Find that God Himself has made Jack a blessing to us.
Now conserning what he said to you.
I pray God open your eyes to consider this. Jack was not the only that felt that way. We all felt the attack. For one you speak against those who have sought the Lord more than we , who have spent more time with the Lord than we , by saying we follow wolfs , ( in which you only asumed , as you said , "why not this site" , and did not point out who God has revealed to you is the Wolf and why)
And not only to the elders of this site , but also to us , saying we follow men! When God Himself bears witness that we ask Him for understanding , and He indeed is the One who Corrects us and Warns us.
And for your first day here stating this , well its hard to give you a warm welcome.
now the second respond that jack posted , i saw was in meekness , and not in judgement , but in explaining to you what he has said in his first post. Also i had confimed to jack after i had seen what he had posted , that you are not hunter , and that it was me who gave you the site.
In which you saw me in the chat rooms , and also bear witness that men reject me without cause . And though they judge me and call me of the devil , whom did you see me condemn? But to speak what i have seen from the Lord , for that even do they come against me , and mis judge me all the time im in there.
And you even you only , in all the people i talked to in that room , you only came here.
And in giving you the site , did i not strictly say , seek God for Understanding? and Let Him lead you?
Would i to lead you into a pack of wolfs?
Jack , whom i told that i met you in a chat room . Even jack then confirmed to you the blessedness of this site , that indeed is unlike any chat room. For as the chat rooms are filled with ungodly men just waiting to debate the Word of God , and that they hate correction , and despise those who speak the Word of God.
And confirmed to you that the men of this site do seek the Lord , and Lean on Him for understanding. And that we are not like the chat rooms , but are a real brothren for you to commune with . ( not acuseing you of wanting to debate , see? ) Showing you clearly what this site is about , Reproof , Correction , Love , Fellowship , and a Godly company. In which you are most welcome to Join.
Now as you can see , there be many here , already some 170 members. A host of which have more wisdom than me , for they post not as much as me. Now you can read through what ever you want , and post a reply to question , or to confirm , or to rebuke.
Not that its my place to judge , And trust me when i say , my hands are full right now. But you did misjuge jack by far!! In that for one you dont know Jack. And two , you did not even seek God in the matter that you should post such an acusation , that is clear by your 3rd post , in which you tell us that you were rushing out the door.
So in that my brother , i speak with humility and kindness , and with all posting the scirptures that you might see from them. That indeed you have judged , and your judgement was false. And even if it were not false , yet still you did contrary to pauls teachings , and also the Teachings of our Lord , who said , Judge NOT .
This i speak in Love to you , Not as from the Lord , yet acording to scriptures i say , that you must repent of this. For as you said is true , and we judge you not , because you are just a man , and you need wisdom of God to be wise.
There fore i conclude that you take heed to the words i posted , Seek the Lord for wisdom and Understanding. Be full of the Spirit , take a day or two to consider before the Lord ,and then come back and respond what the Lord has shown you on the matter.
I led you here brent , in hopes that you will begin to see what the Children of God have been seeing from the Lord. That you might take heed , and also be a blessing to your family and to us , and lead others here to learn.
Again you are welcome here. And if God wills , then do post what you have seen of these mountains and waters , it sounds most interesting , and im sure you will find one here who also has seen of mountains and waters. If you dont wish to post it , or if God says no , then go to Rays website and Key word mountain , and waters , and see what the Lord has shown Ray , i do this often with the things ive seen. Shareing will help us all grow in understanding of what God is Showing US.
Now to God be all the Glory , Honor , and Praise. May He instruct you , and Wisper His Wisdom into your ear. Peace be with you , may God grant you Grace and Mercy , in Jesus Name so be it.