Hi everybody,

I am starting this thread to get some discussion about a project for comprehensive systematization and indexing of all the Prophecy Book info that I want to embark upon. I will now post two postings/articles, first (this one) with my arguments for it and the second one with my initial thoughts about its setup. The project is still very much in the planning stage, and I would like to see people's reactions and whether or not anybody would be interested in joining in on this work. Before I say anything else, I want to state up front that obviously what I write here represents my view of how things should be done. I believe that producing the guide as discussed below would allow production of witnessing materials that would be easier to use both for us and for those to whom we are witnessing. I say this generically, and I obviously do not claim that all the details that I am proposing are good. I invite everybody else to make suggestions and criticize. Naturally, once the work is complete, I will, hopefully, go ahead with making my own witnessing materials based on that. But what I want to note and emphasize here is that by doing this project I am not only trying to simplify my own work, but I also want to enable others produce their own materials using the same info. For example, once Rev. Barr produce his Animal Parables study, we were all able to make use of it in making our own materials. So, I say, if we make a bigger and better guide, capturing, to the best of our ability and with the Lord's help, as much of the info in the Prophecy Book as possible, we will make the work of everybody seeking to publicize the Prophecies a lot easier.

The basic idea:

So how do we make a bigger and better guide? There will be a lot more on that in the next posting, but in brief the goal is to allow the reader to go from an idea to the Prophecy (index) and from a Prophecy to an idea (description).

First, let's consider index, the more important part. Rev. Barr's guide is one such index, from animals to Prophecies. I want to make an index from every conceivable recurring piece of information to the Prophecies. For example, conspicuously absent from the existing indexes are the Lord's rebukes, declarations, and injunctions, at least afaik. Maybe we can find some such info, e.g. that guy from streets ministry picked out those Prophecies having to do with the streets. But streets is not the only topic that the Lord speaks about. He talks about many things in many different words, e.g. among others Trinity, Rapture, preparedness for endtimes, preaching, salvation, damnation, pastors, false Christian theologies, other religions, politics, the lowly are wise and the high are dumb, New Age, and Ray's personal problems (no I am not excited about categorizing those, but they are there, who am I to argue with that). Well, that's off the top of my head, there really are many more important topics that we should be able to identify and match up with those Prophecies that deal with them. And then we can publish it all together on the web and in print.

So then when the next time somebody is making a short compilation for some purpose, he would be able to use the guide to include the right Prophecies. If it is for a pastor, maybe put in a lot about dumb pastors. If it is for believing Christians, put in lots of instructions of what to do. If it is for people who do not believe, put in lots of factual Prophecies. And, no less importantly, if you bring the Prophecy Book to witness to somebody and you are asked, well what does it say, you will have the index there with you to remind you and to refer you to the right page. In other words, I believe that once we have the index, the Prophecy Book will cease to be a "sealed scroll" once and for all. We will find out for ourselves and proclaim to the world at large exactly what does it say, how it says that, where it says that, and how many times it says that. So that you don't end up saying, well it's somewhere here about France or about the Rapture, go look it up.

The other part will be short descriptions, summaries. Ray has provided some sort of short summaries already, the ones used as titles of webpages. However those ones seem to serve not so much to summarize the contents in a readable fashion as to whet the interest of the reader. So that means that there is some utility to them in some contexts, but for other purposes we may want to do other things. I think in most cases the basic idea of a Prophecy can be captured in a few sentences, plus the short description would appropriately contain the references to those categories to which we have assigned the Prophecy in the index. So a Prophecy summarized as “The Lord has already provided you with the knowledge and technology, so go and spread the Word, not waiting for the antichrist,” probably would be categorized in the index under “antichrist” and “preaching, spreading the Word”.

Thoughts about philosophy of systematization:

Most key prophecies have been given to Ray by 1994, especially the factual prophecies, afaik. That was probably important for their being distributed from early on, because the Lord did not want people to sit there and wait until every last word is said. Well, you might ask, it is a decade later, and if the Lord wanted to get an index, wouldn't He already had one made? Perhaps, as some people suggested here on the forum, the Lord really wanted it all to be in parables, so that only a few people whom the Holy Spirit will guide carefully would understand. Well, not even so much in parables, there aren't that many parables in the Book, but just carefully enclosed by other Prophecies that are guaranteed to make most people turn away. Because when you open the Prophecy Book, chances are you are going to find a page with another inscrutable vision, another personal problem of Ray, or another rebuke that to people who do not believe that Ray is a Prophet is simply foolishness. Chances are that you are not going to find any factual statements, something that would make anybody out there, Christian or not, think about the potential significance and meaning of the Book. Well, say such people, fine. The Lord wills it. So when we go out witnessing, let's speak in parables too. Let's say "the wind of the north is coming" and let them figure it out. Maybe they will get it, when that wind rains radioactive ashes on their house.

Now, God forbid that I should speak against the manner in which the Lord organized the Prophecy Book. And I should not speak against my brothers' opinions either. But let me propose the following. Perhaps the reason why there was no index all this time and the Prophecies are arranged so as to make people turn away without some effort on the part of the Lord, is that the Lord did not WANT this scroll to be opened YET. If the scroll were opened back in 1994, if, let us use our imagination, the Word of God by Ray were proclaimed from the housetops then all over the world, what would have happened? Well, pretty much nothing would have happened for a decade. We can all talk about how elephant and straw means Republicans and rumors of WMD, or how the war in Congo was in August. But these are not all that indubitable statements. Even in Congo, well something happens over there constantly, the August invasion was not the first or the last, and you can always find the one in the right month. Well, that's what the mockers would have said. "The years are prolonged, the vision faileth." And everybody else would have been afraid for a few years and then forgot about it.

Well then, perhaps the Lord did not want that at all. Perhaps He wanted for some group of people to learn about the Prophecies, those He invested some effort into getting to accept the Word. But everybody else should have waited for awhile. Then, when the things prophesied are on the verge of happening, a year or two before the fulfillment, then the Word would have been declared loudly and clearly to all the world. Because we know for a fact that it WILL be declared, because the Prophecies say so. Because the Lord will glorify Himself in the sight of the nations. Not just in the eyes of those who will listen to stories about the wind of the north. In the eyes of everybody!

When we recall what is revealed in the Prophecies about the United States waging war against the beast, about that government represented by the vessel of flowers, or the recent statement from the Lord that the Lord Jesus Christ will hold the country together through many great troubles, we can see that the days come very shortly when this nation, and other nations will see the glory of God. Not just see it in the sense that they will perish because the Lord so commanded it. That's not seeing, that's just falling off the cliff blindly. They will see it by perceiving that the Word of God, both the Bible (Ezekiel, Daniel and Revelation) and Ray's message, will come to pass. And they will be so confident in the Lord, so dedicated to Him, that they will go and fight for the cause of the Lord against the antichrist. Can you imagine America of today first suffering depression and earthquake that destroys fourth of it, then getting hit by Russian nuclear bombs and THEN going to war against a nuclearly armed evil empire in Eurasia? Can you imagine it fighting to the last to defend the city of Jerusalem? Today the United States have neither competence nor zeal in place to deal even with a few murderers in Iraq. Instead of having public debates about ways to solve the problem, we have public debates about cutting and running.

But these things will come, and this should tell us that at THAT time the Word of God will not be a sealed scroll at all. There will be no parables, no hearing without understanding. The Word of God will be most clear, it will rings in all ears, and everybody will know exactly what has the Lord spoken. There will be political movements based on the Word of God, movements against which the beast will prevail, "make war against the saints and overcome them." There will be people who will know the they will lose the war, but they will fight to the last for the Word of God because they will all know that Word. Not everybody will accept it, to be sure, but no one will live without knowing it. And in this country, Lord have mercy on us, there will be for a long time enough people who believe in His Name and who are ready to do His will, though it mean war and tribulations. There will be enough of them so that the United States will be used as a tool in the Lord's hand to resist the antichrist. We can safely guess that the Lord will surely take care to prepare the nation for that mission. I believe that essential for that preparation is the eventual declaration, the broadcasting, the inculcation of the Word of God to everybody, Christian or not, inclined to parables or not, wise or foolish.

So what do we do here? I believe it is our duty to start laying down the infrastructure for that proclamation of the Word, to everybody, but first and foremost to the United States. Well, we live here anyway. Some of it is physical and human infrastructure, we need to learn to distribute the Word, in print as well as electronically. That part may seem daunting now, given that there is simply not enough money available for any massive paper distribution at present. But we need not fear. We can see from what the Lord has said that the infrastructure will be set up and the Word will be distributed.

But another thing we need to do is to lay down the intellectual infrastructure. No political movement can be based on parables. Nobody will go to fight and die for the Word that he has not understood. If you go have a public debate about Ray's message with the materials we have available right now, it will take a lot of intercession from the Lord not to make a fool of oneself. So, I say, WHEN the time comes for the Word to become clear, for the Word to be proclaimed to everybody and to be understood by everybody, it will be essential for us to have a prepared solid intellectual basis for the defense and the preaching of that Word. That fleeting sense of the encounter with the Divine we get when opening the Prophecy Book on a random page and reading is not enough. Christianity in general is not supposed to be based on tricks of the mind, on personal experience, on psychology. It is supposed to be based on the solid bedrock of the Word, that is "clear and to the point", the Word that is clearly understood, the Word of which you know what it does say and where it says that and, no less significantly, what it does not say. Can we say that today of the Prophecy Book? I can't, at least.

So when the time comes, we must be ready. Well, I do not know the times and the seasons, when will that come. And I certainly have no wish to "draw iniquity with cords of vanity" or to see whatever it is that will come. But our wishes aside, it will come. And I believe it is our duty to start preparing now, preparing that intellectual infrastructure, as well as the physical one. I do not think there are many people who would argue that the years will get prolonged anymore. It just does not look like it. I say, we need to stop talking in parables, in manners that only a minuscule fraction of people will understand, and start learning to speak plainly, to explain, to persuade. The better we prepare today, the more will we be able to contribute to the coming Christian Revival, the Revival that will give the nation the strength to stand up against evil.

In conclusion, let me note that this index that I am proposing does not an intellectual infrastructure make. It is just a small part of it. It is also important to develop effective methods of witnessing (which is why I have started the other thread). It is important to develop organizational methods. There is a lot of wisdom to be collected, systematized, published, and made accessible to people if we want to arm ourselves and make ourselves strong and wise. The index is just a pretty easy but, I feel, very significant starting point. It might help us to win more people quickly to help us do other things that have to be done.

So I will leave you with this thought for now. Please think and pray about it. I will write more about it later and hopefully start working on it soon.

The Lord be with you.

watcher

some preliminary thoughts about categories for indexing. This really needs to be expanded and ironed out before effective indexing can begin. Otherwise we would waste much time, given that indexing involves linearly going through the huge volume of text, Prophecy by Prophecy.

1. audience: is it Ray, faithful Christians, Christians in general, pastors, people in general, people of a given region, or any other identifiable group?

2. how long is it? subdivide Prophecies and Occurrences into groups according to some arbitrary word count range.

3. how clear is it? Is it a few cryptic utterances, utterances that have obvious implications, or a long meaningful message? If this is a Vision, is it explained immediately or later on, or does it just stand on its own?

4. does it contain factual prophecies of the future? if yes, classify it by topic of the prophecy, e.g: California, earthquake, climate problems, economic/financial problems, oil problems, United States, Russia, Korea, France, Israel, Costa Rica, other nations by name, Islam and Muslims, other religions, antichrist, antichrist’s political movement, antichrist’s rule, false prophet, persecution of Christians, nuclear war, mark of the beast, San Francisco, meteorite, Temple of Jerusalem and the Ark of the Covenant. This is a preliminary list, a more complete one needs to be prepared before the classification starts.

5. does it contain parables? Most parables are based on animals, i.e. we can use Rev. Barr’s guide, but there a few others e.g. the vessel of flowers vs. vessel of vinegar.

6. does the Prophecy focus on getting people to do something e.g. preach the Word, read the Bible, read the Prophecies, pray intensely, eat Communion, help people, unite the churches. This list of possible commands needs to be expanded. Then categorize the Prophecy based on every identifiable recurring command. Of course, what constitutes a “focus” on a topic is not that clear, e.g. every second one tells people to go read the Bible, but some are much more elaborate on the topic. Perhaps we can use a cutoff of 2-3 sentences for a topic to consider it elaborate. Plus, need to note whether this elaborate statement of the injunction is just a part of a larger whole or else the Prophecy is dedicated to the injunction.

7. Does it criticize and rebuke people? We might try categorizing different rebukes or just record it as a single category, given that they usually show up together with few words about each one. But some may still deserve special attention, e.g. abortion, false theology and ignoring the Word of God, wasting God’s gifts while being unfruitful. Anything else?

8. if the Prophecy is for Ray, we might want to come up with some categorization here too at least for those topics that may be relevant to the general public, e.g. Ray’s role as a Prophet, the nature of the Prophecies, acceptance of the Prophecies by others including pastors separately, money and equipment problems, major events in his work, promises of signficant spiritual gifts, statements about his future work, specific commands to do things. There are things like his marital problems that are less relevant, but we might just as well be thorough here and cover it all since it is a recurring theme and the Lord wished to get us to read it.

Hi Watcher,

My, you sure are taking on a lot at one time. You certainly have much more energy than I have, but then you are a bit younger.

Your idea is good, and perhaps your posting this idea of an index to the prophecies will inspire someone to start the work.

But I can tell you right now that according to the projects that you already have in the fire, that you do not have the time to make up this index yourself. It is a good idea, but having made a simple index on the first 800 prophecies once for my own use, that it is very time consuming, even with a search engine, and why I never continued it with later prophecies.

As I understand your project load now, And bless your soul for doing them, you have short fliers or booklets about the Prophecies that you are producing, having printed, and distributing now in two languages. That you plan on personally going to the pastors in your area with a complete copy of the Prophecies to show them, and to possibly getting them interested in learning more about the Prophecies. And that is Good. And that takes up a lot of time. I can see many weeks of phone calls, making and keeping appointments, spending from 15 minutes to several hours with each one who agrees to meet with you.

Next I understand that you said that the Lord God Jesus Christ has told you to make audio recordings of every one of Raymond's Prophecies from the Lord God. And that is also good, for there are many who might listen when they could not be able to read, such as the visually impaired or the blind. Or even people who are driving who could listen to a tape recording of the prophecies. And that is Good, very good. And I can see a real need for that.

Now I must comment: From experience I must say that just the reading into a recorder of all the 1700 ++ prophecies. Separating into individual Prophecy recordings so individual prophecies can be found, or searched for, so that one may be able to return to any prophecy, will take you months of 40 to 80 hour weeks of work. For you must not only read in the Prophecies, but you must also give a verbal description of the pictures.

The master recording, the separating cleaning of the individual recordings, the indexing of the prophecies, The uploading them to your blog site as each prophecy separate from the others, the search engine if any, a key word index, and that is the simple form of it. And I do not think that you will have the time to do more than this simple form in the time remaining.

I could hope that I am wrong on this, But I do not see you having any free time left in the next 6 months, And I do not see you having any more time than the next six months for you to do and to complete the work of these two projects, for if they are not completed in that time frame, they will never be completed, for what is coming at us. For if you finish each of these first two projects you have started, you will be working 80 hour weeks for a long time to come. And I salute you for it. I lift you up before the Holy Lord God Jesus Christ to strengthen you for the work which is before you, for the Lord God is using you.

But perhaps you may be inspiring someone else to take on the indexing of the prophecies.

The time is short before the Persecution of Christians is on us like a bolder rolling down the mountain side.

Rev. Barr,

actually, things are not quite as intense for me as you seem to have the impression of.

I am not the one planning on dictation of Prophecies, that's BlueRiverTributaries. Frankly, I would personally hope that he would come over and switch to this work, in my imho at least this is much more relevant. And also requires a higher level of qualification and dedication, because dictations you can just order over the web for peanuts, but not this kind of work on careful exposition of the Word of God. Here we need people who are dedicated to accomplish what they are doing, it is hard to do quality assurance here.

The printing I do hope to organize but right now it is basically on the backburner. In fact, I am now mostly involved in translation work, but that would end pretty soon, if the Lord wills it.

As far as the persecution of Christians goes, I would like to stand by my opinion that at least here in the United States we should not line up for the guiliotine quite yet. Daniel 11, e.g. suggests that the king of the south, enemy of the antichrist, will sign a peace treaty and then be betrayed by them who eat of his own meat only basically at the very end. I am by now pretty convinced that that is also the meaning of the parable of the vessel of vinegar triumphing over vessel of flowers, i.e. the pro-peace-with-antichrist party triumphing over the Christian party that has been waging war to the last. This also calls to mind that parable of the Hand that Cut the Ribbon mightier than the Blood of the (American?) People. So basically, I believe, we still have many wars, many invasions, many troubles, many years ahead of us before the kingdom of the beast will eat up the nation and complete its dominion over the world. Of course, the Prophecies spend more time warning of the beast than giving timelines (though some timelines are there, e.g. parable of 4 invasions in #965), but that's because the Prophecies are for everybody, not just the USA, but also nations that will fall early on.

And, as I wrote in the other article, I believe that if we are to have any chance of lasting that long, if overcoming the saints is not supposed to be a walk in the park, the way Al Qaeda is now subduing Europe with a few terrorists, we need to prepare ourselves intellectually and politically. I do not know how much political involvement will any of us be guided to by the Lord. But at least we can sit down now and prepare and publish materials that will be the instrument of that movement that will defend the Christian faith and the West and that will make the Word of God its primary ideological underpinning and its foremost propaganda instrument. And what better political and religious preaching material can there be, to distribute to people, to declare on the radio, to scream from the rooftops at the world of enemies in bondage to demons, than the Word of God?

But first we need to learn that Word, as well and in as much detail as we know the Bible. And we need to convince people, churches, our own current and future political leaders that this really is FOR REAL, not just another angelfire prophet putting righteousness on the dollar, not another fantasy based on the Revelation. We are not done until the godless start laughing at Ray's Prophecy on TV and in New York Times the way that they laugh at the Book of Revelation, until it becomes a household name. So that's why I am proposing this project. Because I believe that the Lord will help us finish and will use this information to unite, to crystallize the movement that will defend Christianity in the coming days.

Sorry about the overly impassioned rhetoric. That's obviously a lot of my opinions, and the Lord knows best. Let me just put it here, and you should do your own discernment, even as the Lord commands all of us.

The Lord be with you.

watcher

hi watcher , God bless

It seems we all have a dream. All have a calling. Sometimes the things that we think we need to do , are off track from What God wants us to do. ( im not saying thats the case with you , but just a possiblility on some of your views)

I do think the index is a good idea , and i would like to help . However , i dont feel good about handleing the Word of God like so. This ,if i partake ( which i want to ) would provide me with obstacles , ( not to mention the demons that are against ray , will come against me , ive got enough on my hands as it is) Never the Less if God would keep me through it , then i would suffer it for the Word of God sake.

But my main fear is touching the Word of God. There is a Great annointeing on these Words , and Truthfully i dont feel i have the knowlege , or even the time ( though i have all time , its just i live with three others here , and well the computer is coveted , and someone is always on it) to handle these prophecies to the Likeing of the Most High.

In my mind I have ive seen these Prophecies being taken to the Churches First. Just as the Gospel was preached to the Jews First. So First things First , all the Churches must either recieve or Reject it , then of those who recieve in each community , can spread the Word like so , so that its not one man going door to door , and doing all the Work. And so All the Churches who believe , well they will Work together . And hopefully more than Give Prophecies , Give food and supplies , conserning the Dark Times soon ahead. ( not speaking of the War as of yet )

As jack had told you , theres little time , conserning alot that will change before this war comes.

We must consider the time frame. If you have only few who will join with you in indexing these prophecies , then dont do it. But if we all work together , for instance.

Some seperate the prophecies given to the Churches , and some the prophecies of future events , and so forth. Would not this lead to an overlapping? In which both future events and prophecies to the Church are given in the same text?

And besides all of this , which is good by the way. I see a better way to spread the Word of God. Its something that we working together cannot do. But only if God Himself Works Through us. Im speaking of the Raiseing of the Dead , the Healing of the Sick , im speaking of the True Church of God working in the Power of God like old times. In this , we will not need to pay for advertiseing , but rather they will come to us curious. If there is No Power of God Working , then well wheres the proof that what we are saying will come to pass? Where is the Proof that what we speak is Truth , if God is Not Witnessing to it Himself?

Any how , thats What ive been Praying For , the Power of God to do all things. And to witness as i ought to.

Partakeing on this reminds me of the apostles in the boat. They fished all night and cought nothing. But when Jesus came and told them how to do it , and what to do , thats when the caught a whole net full that they couldnt receive into their boat. We must seek the Counsel of God i believe , before we take part in this index , that way the Spirit of God may appoint each man to his post , and we can do this together. And if it be not Gods will , then clearly we wont be wasting this little time.

Hi St_joel,

if you are concerned about overlaps in categorization, that's nothing to be concerned about. That is just what is actually necessary. When you do keyword searches on Google, obviously the same page turns up on many different queries, as it should. The same here, if a Prophecy speaks about pastors, antichrist, and preaching, then it should be possible to find it on all three of these categories.

Concerning your visions, look unto the Lord, not to me. If the Lord leads you to believe that these texts really will get printed and distributed all over the place and accepted/rejected without further supporting materials, well, maybe you are right. Unless the Lord buildeth a house, they labor in vain that build it, and the same with indexes.

Me the Lord leads to believe that nothing of that sort will ever happen. We are not going to distribute printouts to all the churches in the remaining several years. At best we might go recruit a few pastors to get some material help with our work. But I believe that the day will come soon when people all over the place will simply go log on to Ray's website and to websites with information about it, e.g. the index, and will read it. Or if they have no internet, they will read about it in the newspaper, hear it on radio, on TV. Some will learn about it even at the Friday prayers in their assemblies, or from the newspapers written by the liars in the service of the Hog. At that time, I believe, the Word of God will ring in all ears, be spoken on TV, and the enemies will gnash their teeth saying, "you evil Christian fundamentalists are trying to stir up war with the peaceful followers of Satan." And the world really will want to close their ears to hide themselves from the Word of God. For the Trumpet will blow not in Zion, as it did for the last decade, but in Nineveh, in Babylon, throughout the world, to people of all persuasions and walks of life, and all will hear it. For the Lord will not condemn people of the world for not understanding parables that they have never heard of. He will condemn them for reading His Words in plain letters and refusing to hear.

If you are concerned about working with the Word of God, about touching it, well once again that's up to you. You can see the examples of many people who have already done so and yielded great fruit, e.g. Rev. Barr. And then there were the translators. In my translation work I use both the English and the Spanish versions, and you know I sometimes find clear mistakes in the manner in which the translator from Spanish to English understood the text, mistakes in translation that cannot be just typos. Not in any kind of interpretation, but in the very translation of the Word of God into the language in which the majority will read it! So what does that tell us? It tells me that all of us humans are imperfect and weak and stupid, but the Lord will accomplish His purposes through us anyway, notwithstanding our weakness, stupidity, and incompetence. You would not believe how many stupid and incompetent things I have done over the last month, but the Lord has always been there to pick up the pieces, to make crooked things straight, for which all Praise, Glory, and Honor be to Him.

So I would say, do not worry about working with the Word of God if you work to further His Glory and if you stay in touch and communion with your brothers, fellowservants of the Lord. The Lord will accomplish His Purpose, He will correct what needs to be corrected, and His Word will not come back void, we have been told that plenty of times.

Now, keep in mind that even if this work really is useful, that does not necessarily mean that the Lord wants you to drop everything else and go do this. Maybe you are fruitfully employed doing something else. Maybe you preach to the pastors, or visit the homeless, or do other commandments of the Lord that the disobedient yours truly is not even lifting a finger to accomplish, sitting here on my behind at this office job and hoping to do something good in front of the screen. So you do what the Lord leads you to do, and His Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.

The Lord be with you.

watcher

Hi Watcher,

I stand corrected and apologize for the mix-up of who is doing what for the Lord God.

But then I have a statement to make about one of your statements of your belief about the future.



Bless your soul, and may the Holy Lord Continue to use you in a mighty way.

My child, YOU, like almost everyone else in this country of America, is in for the shock of your life in only a few more months, not many years as you believe, but it is now coming down to only less than 24 months to Persecution and War.

But then why should I scare the daylights out of you by telling you this, for you do not want to hear it. And you will not believe it. You will most likely continue to deny it right up to the day that the thought police knock on your door. Right up to the day you see the nuclear bombs going off in America. Then you will say, golly gee wiz, it is closer than I thought it would be.

On Apr. 20, 2005 the Lord said to me.

I will tell you this also. The Holy Lord Jesus Christ has told me that I will still be alive when the Rapture takes place, That I will go in the Rapture, and that I will not see my 80th birthday on this earth. I an 71 this year, So I say unto you all, that sometime between the war, which is about to start, and my 80th birthday in 2014, the Lord God Jesus Christ will be coming back for HIS Bride, and that will be the time of the Rapture. Listen people, that makes it only 9 1/2 more years at the outside until the time of the Rapture. Be ready, Be Ready, Be Ready, for as the parable of the 10 Virgins shows us, anyone who is not ready will miss the Rapture and be locked out forever.

What more can I say to convince any of you that your time here on this earth is about to end. No, there is nothing more that I can say. There is nothing I can say, or do, which will prepare you for what is about to fall upon you. You have been warned, now you must prepare.

To all of you who have been given a job to do by the Lord God Jesus Christ, hurry to get that job done. Expect that in no more than a year from now you will be under severe persecution for being a Christian, that laws will be passed which will make it illegal to have any kind of Christian writings on your computer or on your person.

Those you do not reach now will not be reached later. So saith the Lord God Jesus Christ.

I'd like to confirm this. Not that the Word of the LORD needs any confirming.

Today I was waiting, and I was avoiding the tv, but I saw a glimpse of the news, and this verbal Brit in Parliament was saying something after the bombings of two days ago to the tune of 'Any stone thrown at a mosque, any wall spray painted, and any threatening against a Muslem will not be tolerated, for we must prove the difference between the radical interpretation of these extremists and the peaceful religion of Islam."

I thought, 'Would they ever say anything like that for a church?'

Islam is a weed.

Brothers and sisters,

so I can see that the enthusiasm for accomplishing the command in Prophecy #1000 to learn the Prophecies forward and backward and in #839 to work on spreading the Word while it is not too late is just overwhelming. People follow the news faithfully, fear demons, and some just rest in peace. For these, no storm can shake their inmost calm while to this forum they are clinging, glorying in a personal relationship with Christ and patting other "little lambs" on the back about the value of obedience and growth.

Well, no problem, the Lord will accomplish that which He set out to do. If the beast really comes in two years, the Lord will make sure that good witnessing materials will get made long before that. I will find people to help me, and I will do what the Lord commands me, if that is His Will.

But can you at least help me with establishing the categorization scheme? You are the ones who will benefit most directly from the success of this project, it will make your evangelization effort much more fruitful and less painful. If you will be the ones to use the index, can you at least write what you want to see there? I have written some of my thoughts, they are in my second post, but does everybody else have absolutely nothing at all to contribute?

I pray that the Lord will guide you and strengthen your hand to labor to glorify His Name before the nations.

The Lord be with you.

watcher

Watcher said:

Bless you Watcher.

I was about to pass by your posting without giving an answer, but I feel that I have been commanded to respond.

I see you going to the wrong source for help. Instead of going to man to help you, you should be going to God for that help.

The way that I have found that works, is that when the Lord tells me to start a project, I start the project!!! Then if I need any help, I go before the Lord God and the Lord sends the help, or the Lord sends the help without me asking for any. .

Have you not seen the people coming forth and asking Raymond if they can help Raymond in whatever he is doing or in whatever he needs?? Raymond has not asked, but the Lord is the one who is sending the help to Raymond. Raymond is only doing the job that the Holy Lord has asked him to do.

There are many on this ProphecyLink who are indeed performing jobs which the Lord God has given them to do, and the Lord provides what they need to finish the job.

It may not be true, but you appear to be sitting back now, coming up with ideas, then expecting someone else to do the job for you, or as you say, to help you. It no longer sounds like you are asking for help, it sounds like you are asking someone else to work it all out, put it all down on paper and then send it to you. That may not be your intention, but that is what it sounds like.

You started out fine with your poster or flier, and I, and I believe many others here, applaud you for it. We hold you up before the Lord God. It was YOU who were doing it, and as you progressed, you asked for information, and that information was forthcoming from many, as they bent over backwards to help you to do the job.

But when you start getting ticked off, as your latest post would seem to indicate, because they will not instantly jump up and follow what you want THEM to do, then you have crossed the line.

Your categorization scheme Must be from God, and not from man, if it is to have any value at all. For it is only the Lord God who will see that the most effective categories are set up. Otherwise ten men will set up the categories which each of them thinks is the most important and you will have ten different list.

If is is that God Gave it to you to do such a categorizing job on the Prophecies of Raymond, then it is to be YOU who does it. If God wanted some one else to do most of it, then God would have given them the job to begin with, and would not have asked you to do the job.

Many of us have been reading and studying the prophecies for years, and many of us are as effective witnessing about the prophecies as is possible to be, for we know what the prophecies are saying, and we know which prophecies to show first to get their attention. And an index will NOT help us. An index can be helpful to one who has not read the prophecies, and as you give out copies of the Prophecies to people, an index would induce them to search the prophecies. I see and understand that. And I can see why you may have been told by the Lord to create an index. But that is for you to do, not for us to do it for you.

I hate it when I have to send a message like this one. But to not send it might allow one to wander too far off of the path they should be following.

The Lord is using you Watcher, now Obey the Lord in all that the Lord tells you to do. For all of us are only workers for the Lord God, there is not one of us who has been set here as a supervisor, for God has reserved that position for Himself. He direct, and we obey.

All the prophecies are in the order that they were given. Why change that? Please correct me if I’ve gotten it wrong, but I think I read something in the books that said they were put in the books exactly how God told him to do it.
I had a desire to copy some and put them in envelopes and pass them out, put them on the doorsteps of everyone in the condos where I live. I didn’t do it, I still can but I do regret not doing it. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
When I first came here and read just a few I couldn’t stop, I feel just getting more people to read even a few of them would be good, The Holy Spirit can do a lot when someone hears the truth deep down they know it.
I have noticed the one thing that people don’t like or understand are the drawings they make no sense to people. I would not put them in if I were doing it myself.

I would put them in the order they were given, excluding the drawings.

One index listing them in the order they were given. And another in a cross-index you could have many.

I would do it like a concordance or a P.D.R. (Physicians Deck Reverence)

It would be different sections, or even color-coded like a PDR.

The first could be blue. It would list all the prophecies a basic index. With page numbers leading to the other section/sections

The second section could be yellow and so on.

The reason for the different colored pages (sections) if you went that way, like a PDR. Would mean that anything you were looking for would be in each section but kind of broken down. Example: if you wanted to look up a particular medication you would start with the blue section. The names of the medication or the yellow section the manufacturer etc. That section and page would lead you to another section and page, that would have the side effects and yet another that would have the uses. There would also be a section of what the pill looks like.

The concordance is better I think, I don’t know why I wrote all that stuff about the PDR.

There would be a lot of going back and forth within it as you read and studied it. Once you start studying the bible it’s kind like that you know. It all has it’s own place but then relates to everything else. A single sermon can jump all over the bible but it all relates.

I would also try to incorporate bible prophecies into it as well.

I have this really huge concordance that has the translations from the original Greek and Hebrew I really like it. Anyway, that’s what I would do, I think it’s easier said then done though. To try and sum up I know I don’t explain what I mean very well.

I would do them in the order they were given, then have a concordance, for me that would be the easiest way to study them. I’m not sure at all if this kind of impute is what you need or will be of any help. But it’s all I have right now.

God Bless,
MerMer Rae

watcher wrote:


OMG OMG ! This is brilliant! I totally agree.

My, My, My, heart70946

How every post you have put up on ProphecyLink just drips with Sarcasm!! And all in one day too. You did some digging and much reading to have come up with all these since you joined ProphecyLink Today Dec. 28, 2005. for I see all of your postings when I went on line at 8:30 AM CT this morning. You joined as a member this morning and already you have 14 Sarcastic postings. This leads one to think that you have been here for some time!! And might even have been using another name here???

You have chosen to mock everyone and everything on ProphecyLink. Only a Satanic Spirit would come in here and instantly start poking fun at everything that was posted in all seriousness.

These are your postings, which I list here, giving under which thread that you posted it to. And I am posting it on every thread that you posted to this morning. So that when one reads one they will see all of your at once.

From Occurrence and Dream given to Raymond Aguilera on 23 October 2004
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Hi All,

It was pointed out to me by another member on ProphecyLink, that they thought they has seen the same signature posted by Heart70946, that is the words "Poker Bonus New York Jobs".

I did not find those words used before on ProphecyLink when I did a search. But on looking closer to them it, turns out that "Poker Bonus New York Jobs" are two links to other web sites.

"Poker Bonus" links to a gambling site, and "New York Jobs" links to a site that will try to put a hidden data gathering link to their site.


Then I noted that Finger54758 also signed their posts with two links to Gambling sites.


Finger54758 had the same kind of mocking attitude that is displayed in the postings of Heart70946, like two peas in a pod.

It seems like Finger54758 has now come back as Heart70946. That also explains the super quick postings to so many threads in so short of time, (like within hours of joining)



From this point on, in my book they are the same person.
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With the Love of Jesus
Rev. Jack Barr