i totally agree with that

Hello Rev. Barr may God bless you,
As I read what you have wrote I’m wondering why God would allow his church to be deceived from the beginning on this.
I have always been told that the bible says there will be people who are left who do not accept the mark or worship the beast, who will in the end make it to heaven.
I was taught that these people (all of them) would have to die, that they would be killed. And that the Lord would accept them for they have given up their lives.
That that is what those who missed the rapture would have to endure for salvation.

I was not taught this in a way that would ever cause someone to think, that they could do what ever they wanted, miss the rapture, then just not take the mark and go to heaven.
It was taught very seriously and makes no mistake about it you do not want to be left behind. We saw films like The Thief in the Night etc.

Its not that it’s so hard to give up old teachings, it’s are they accurate interpretations/teachings.
I’m having a little trouble with why, and why now, at this late date, are we coming to this knowledge that no one after the rapture will ever go to heaven.
What about the Jews, first they follow the antichrist, then their eyes are opened, they are hidden away (God has a place for them) they escape the persecution.
They are not damned; they eventually go to heaven.

The teaching of the Catholic Church to summarize are as such, the rapture is a simultaneous event at the end the tribulation, just before Armageddon.
These teachings I think, are what has been taught by most, If not all-Christian faiths from the beginning of Christianity.
I plan on going in the rapture, but why this revelation now. I realize you may not have the answer to why and that's okay. Like I said I plan on going anyway.

Were do Raymond’s prophecies fit into this, are you saying that everything the Lord has shown Raymond are all things we will be here for?
Are we supposed to warn people about what is to come so they are ready when these things happen and believe and resist what is happening, and then be ready to go to meet the Lord in the rapture.

Are the prophecies to confirm to people while they are being fulfilled that what is really happening is the end, so more people are saved and are ready for the rapture.
Or for us to tell people before they happen, then when they come to pass, people will believe.

Now I’m wondering if the prophecies are all going to happen before the rapture, if no one, on one who is left behind will be aloud in heaven then what is the point. Unless the prophecies are about things we all will see and endure before the rapture and the antichrist is revealed and the seven-year tribulation period.

I kind of thought that some of Raymond’s prophecies would not come to pass until after the rapture and maybe some of these prophecies in part were also for the people left behind, to help them get through the tribulation. Help them be strong and endure, not except the antichrist and die if need be.


God Bless,
MerMer Rae

my sister , this site wont be up for too much longer. Dont harden your heart sis , what jack is saying is the Truth. The Truth that i hardly wanted to believe , but who am i to fight with God? What ever He says , thats what il believe. And jack spoke acording to Truth. Study it , understand it , that a way , when you tell others , they wont say where is this in the bible? without you showing them. Many will reject it , as i did at first , to me it was as if jack was speaking something contrary to the Truth. Ive never heard of such things as salvation being closed after the rapture. I thought , but the Scriptures say , all Who come to Me i will in no wise cast out. I thought we could always come to the Lord for salvation at any time.

Jack pointed it out to me , we can only come to the Lord in Repentance when we are Called to. To those whom the Lord Cuts off , there is no more salvation for them. As those left behind. If the Lord is not calling , they connot come.

NOW is the Time of Salvation! Praise God!!!! Praise GOD for salvation!!!!!!!

let us renew our minds from false teachings , and again seek the Lord for wisdom.

Rev. Barr is 100% correct in this. Here's why God let the church be deceived....because the only TRUE church is built on a rock...that's the church of JESUS CHRIST. Not man's church...man loves to twist and corrupt God's words into lies. But if you belong to the church of Jesus Christ...then you know the true word from the bible. Things are actually happening right now that are behind the scenes putting everything into place before the End time. The time after the Rapture, so most of Ray's prophecies are being fulfilled but we dont' confirm them until after it happens. We need to know about them to tell others and warn them, that way if they turn to God it worked, if they don't then when these things happen they will know that we warned them way back when and now they have no chance because they were given many before. We all need to really step up our faith, because faith is what allows us to not worry about things, to not be afraid of ANYTHING but God for he's the only one who can condemn us to hell or welcome us to heaven. Faith is something that is blind...it's something we go on with to prove ourselves to God, when we're in times of persecution it's our faith in God that allows us to Love the people hurting us, and to help us get through the situation because he can see that we love Him and that we follow Him, and he'll help us make it through what's happening to us. I think that too many people are worried about the future...when we need to be worried about where we stand now, because if we wait the future is too late for us. Instead of everyone worrying about who the anti-christ is, which we don't need to know as many have already stated in this post, or what day or time these things will take place, we need to make sure that if we all died this exact instance that our slates have already been wiped clean and we have lived our lives to follow the Lord through his words and ways. That's the most important thing! Yours in Christ, Stephanie.

Thank you for clearing that up for this forum. I had heard many variations on the whole rapture-tribulation thing, I didn't know what to beleive!

From Storzok



Stephanie, you have an understanding that only God could have given you.

The Question has Always been, If I were to die right now, would I go to heaven or hell??

If you are ready, if you are truly a child of Jesus Christ, then if you were to die right now you would go to heaven, for that is the Promise of the Holy Lord God.

And if you are not a true child of Jesus Christ and if you were to die right now, you would go to Hell. There is no in-between.

So with that in mind, let us look at what happens at the Rapture.

1. The dead in Christ come out of the graves first. Hello people!!! Did you get that?? It is ONLY the Dead in Christ which rises to meet Jesus in the air at the Rapture. Those who were not of Christ are still in their graves. Note that it is these dead in Christ who are in heaven right now!!! It is Only those who had Salvation, and are in heaven right now, that will come out of the graves to join Jesus at the Rapture.

2. Those still living join the dead in Christ who came out of the graves.. It is Only those who are truly children of Jesus Christ and are still living, the ones that if they were to die right now, would go to heaven. It is only these who would go to heaven right now if they died, who will join Jesus in the air at the Rapture.

3. Now do you all have the picture?? At the Rapture, Everyone who ever lived on the earth who either went to heaven, or would ever go to heaven, has now joined with Jesus in the Air.

Everyone left behind, I say again, Everyone left behind, either in the graves, or still living on the earth, are either already in hell, or if they died right then, would go to hell. These are the ones left on the Earth. And the Bible tells us that these people who are left behind from the Rapture will never repent.

** The one exception are the Jews, the Israelites, who are under a different covenant with God, than we, the Gentiles are. And that is a point of information given to us in the Bible which so many know nothing about. Nor do they care!!

If you are a Jew, you have only to accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah. For the Jews will finish out their covenant with God the Father, which covers the last 7 years before the return of Jesus Christ to set up His Earthly Kingdom. Even so, it will only be a remnant of them, only a relative handful of them who will make it to salvation as Israelites. So the Holy Word of God the Bible tells us.

Hi there MerMer Rae,

I appreciate your writing. Your letters are always welcome.

I am a little late in giving you an answer to your post above, and several have posted since you did, but Here is your answer.

Believe me when I tell you that your letter here is one of the nicest ones that I have received on this subject of what I posted. And the private letters coming in are stacking up, most with big crocodile teeth reaching out to grab me, with only one exception. But then, I knew that would happen even before I posted. They read every 4th word then attack me with "It can't be that way because" then they search, and rip out of the bible every verse they think will make them look better.

But MerMer Rae, you are not like them, you are not attacking, you are asking questions, and they are good legitimate questions, deserving answers. I will give answers within your letter, in color text to separate your text from my answers.


MerMer Rae
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject:
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Hello Rev. Barr may God bless you,
As I read what you have wrote I’m wondering why God would allow his church to be deceived from the beginning on this.
I have always been told that the bible says there will be people who are left who do not accept the mark or worship the beast, who will in the end make it to heaven.
I was taught that these people (all of them) would have to die, that they would be killed. And that the Lord would accept them for they have given up their lives.
That that is what those who missed the rapture would have to endure for salvation.

I was not taught this in a way that would ever cause someone to think, that they could do what ever they wanted, miss the rapture, then just not take the mark and go to heaven.
It was taught very seriously and makes no mistake about it you do not want to be left behind. We saw films like The Thief in the Night etc. Oh yes I do know, for I was taught much the same, both in Catholic Schools, and from the pulpit, and again later as I went through the Seminary. And since then, virtually all of the pastors teach it this way, and the books now coming out, like the "Left behind" series, and several other series all teach this same teaching.

But always remember this. Just because it is taught does not make it true. When we look at old science books, from even 100 years ago, we will see that a lot of what they taught as truth is now known to be false. When we look at old books on medicine and healing, we see that almost all of those medicines and healing practices have been thrown out, replaced. Yet at that time it was believed to be the truth, but is now recognized as being not true. I will not say a lie, for there was no intention to speak falsely, they really did believe what they wrote and taught, it is just that what they believed and taught was wrong.

Actually it is very comforting to believe what is taught today about the Rapture and the missing of the Rapture. For this belief allows one to drift without committing themselves until they see it happen, then to believe that they can still make it to heaven, in spite of having thumbed their nose at God, believing that what they have been taught, that God is such a Loving God that God would never send any one to hell if they finally said "Lord I want to go to heaven". And that belief my child, for many, but not all, is known as being turned over to a Reprobate Mind by God, to believe the lie. (Rom. 1:28 )

Its not that it’s so hard to give up old teachings, it’s are they accurate interpretations/teachings.
I’m having a little trouble with why, and why now, at this late date, are we coming to this knowledge that no one after the rapture will ever go to heaven. That is an excellent thought. Yes it is! Just how accurate are the interpretations that every one is giving?? How do you know if their interpretation is right or wrong?? Before starting, take everything that you have been taught about what the Bible says, and throw it away, for almost all of it is wrong Then: First you go read the Bible for yourself. Starting on the first page and not stopping until you finish the last page. Straight through, no jumping around, no skipping, not even skipping over the boring list of names. Second, every time you pick up the Bible and start reading, first ask the Lord God to make know to you the Truth of His Word. Third, take all that you read literal, unless by the text itself you see that it is not.

Only God can give you the correct interpretation to anything in the Bible. Man will always get it wrong.

Now as for the coming to this knowledge that no one after the Rapture will go to heaven, coming at such a late date. This knowledge has been in the Bible for several thousand years, so it most definitely not something new. It has been ignored, it has been deliberately pushed aside, It has been mis interpreted by those who told themselves that it just could not be that way because their pastor said ---, and it has been rejected by many because they just did not want to believe.

I am sure that you have heard many sermons over the years about the 10 Virgins, but when have you ever heard any pastor preach on the closing verses of that parable?? Those last couple of verses are what that parable is all about. It is what that parable is there to warn us of. "Those who were not ready were locked out, were they not?? No, this teaching is not new, and is not brought out only at this late date. It has been there right along for anyone to read of and believe.


What about the Jews, first they follow the antichrist, then their eyes are opened, they are hidden away (God has a place for them) they escape the persecution.
They are not damned; they eventually go to heaven. Oh yes, the Jews. Everyone wants to point out the Jews who will go to heaven after the Rapture has taken place. But not one of them cares to find out Why!! So let us examine that for you. Yes God has a place for "Some" of them, and the Bible tells us in plain words that it will only be "some of them" who will go to the place of safety. That almost of them will die and go to hell just like the Gentiles, for most of them will continue to reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah right up until their end. Only those who accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah will make it to the safe place, and eventually into the Kingdom of Jesus on this Earth. This the Bible tells us.

Next, what is ignored by virtually everyone is that the Jews have a separate Covenant with God, than the Gentiles have. The Covenant with the Gentiles will come to an end at the time of the Rapture. But the Covenant with the Jews will last for all Eternity, for so the Lord God has swore to on Himself. Psa. 89:35-37; Hosea 2:19; Jer. 31:32; Ezek 16:60; Isa. 66:20-22; and we must not forget Hosea 2:16, for this verse is passed over by many because they do not understand two of the words in this verse. But these two words are recognized by many as being two words which were never translated when written into the English Bibles, both the KJV and the English Bible which went before the KJV. These two word are what they call transliterated, that means that the Hebrew was only placed into the English for pronunciation only. These two words are "Ishi" which when translated means "Husband", and the word "Baali" which when translated means "My Lord". So this verse of Hosea 2:16 is the Holy Lord God speaking to the Jews, and says to them "And it shall be at that day, saith the Lord, that thou shalt call me Husband, and shall call me no more My Lord."

So you see, we who are of the Gentiles will be the Faithful Virgin Bride of Jesus Christ. But the Jews are the chosen of God the Father, and are the Unfaithful Wife of God the Father, who will one day turn and remain faithful to Him for all Eternity, never whoring after other gods again.

Now can you see why and how the Jews will be treated differently than us?? Yes they will go to heaven, but no, they will not be part of the Bride of Christ. The Jews will be forever with the Father, and we, as the Bride will be forever with Jesus. Two separate bodies.

The teaching of the Catholic Church to summarize are as such, the rapture is a simultaneous event at the end the tribulation, just before Armageddon.
These teachings I think, are what has been taught by most, If not all-Christian faiths from the beginning of Christianity.
I plan on going in the rapture, but why this revelation now. I realize you may not have the answer to why and that's okay. Like I said I plan on going anyway. As long as you are ready to go, it will not matter when the Rapture takes place, for if you die first, you will be in heaven, and if you are still alive and would be judged welcome to be in heaven if you died, then you will be in the Rapture.

However the teaching of the Catholic Church is wrong, as is most of their doctrines they teach. But even so, there are many who sit in the pews and keep their eyes on Jesus, ignoring the idolatry taught, that will have salvation and enter into heaven. I know that my Mother and Father have both made it into heaven, for the Lord God told me so. My Father who was a convert to Catholic, went easy to heaven. But my Mother who was born and raised a Catholic almost did not make it. And it is only in answer to prayers for her salvation that the Lord God kept her alive for 10 years past the time when He would have taken her. And it is only at the end that she repented, then Jesus Took her, so Jesus told me. But she did suffer physically in those last years. Early on the Lord showed me a vision of just how far away from Him that she was, yet she was convinced that she had salvation, and with that belief, never repented, for she had never been told that she had to repent. The belief that just speaking to a priest in the confessional, was all that was needed. But there is not one man on this earth outside of Jesus who could ever forgive sins.

Were do Raymond’s prophecies fit into this, are you saying that everything the Lord has shown Raymond are all things we will be here for? No I am not, but while we will be here for most of those prophecies, there are some prophecies which will most definitely happen during the last 7 year Great tribulation period, which is the last 7 years the Jews will again be under Mosaic Law. But there are so many who can not see that while we will not, and can not be on the earth during that last 7 years, it does not mean that we will not be here for some very terrible tribulations.

I tell people what the Lord God Jesus Christ has given to me in prophecy, and in our talks together, and they laugh, say no it just cannot be that way for I was taught etc, etc. Their not believing is their problem, for they have been warned, and I am getting tired of giving that same warning over and over again when they will not listen. How frustrated the Old Testament Prophets must have been. I see them in a whole new light since the Lord has started giving me prophecy.

I say once more. The 1st seal of Revelation has already been opened. The 2nd seal is about to be opened in Less than two years at the most from this time, and that opening seal is WAR. The Last Seven year Great tribulation does not start until the Trumpet Judgments, and then it tells us that no one who lives through those judgments will ever repent.

I tell them once more that the Anti-Christ is gaining control and will be controlling the leaders of the different governments, without himself being revealed to us, since he will be controlling from the background. And so the mark of the Beast will be implemented in this time BEFORE the Great Tribulation of Daniel's Prophecy.

They say, no, no, that just cannot be because it is not what I was taught. But I say, It Will BE for the Holy Lord has declared it to be so, and has told me that it will be that way.

Are we supposed to warn people about what is to come so they are ready when these things happen and believe and resist what is happening, and then be ready to go to meet the Lord in the rapture. Yes you are given the information so that you can tell others who will not listen to God directly. But even so, most that you tell will not believe, and most will not care. These you can do nothing about. Once you have told them, they are on their own to believe whatever it is that they want to believe. Walk away from them. Do not continue to preach to deaf ears. Go find someone new to warn. Perhaps a few will listen, maybe.

Are the prophecies to confirm to people while they are being fulfilled that what is really happening is the end, so more people are saved and are ready for the rapture.
Or for us to tell people before they happen, then when they come to pass, people will believe.

Now I’m wondering if the prophecies are all going to happen before the rapture, Most of them will happen before the Rapture. if no one, no one who is left behind will be aloud in heaven then what is the point. The point is for them to make themselves ready NOW, and how can they make themselves ready if they are not told. God Told Noah, Noah told his family who believed, and Noah told every one else who would not believe, and you see the result. Those who believed were saved, those who did not believe perished. Unless the prophecies are about things we all will see and endure before the rapture and the antichrist is revealed and the seven-year tribulation period. If you see someone standing in the middle of a railroad track and you see a train bearing down on them, should you not warn them? But once they have been warned, then it is up to them to believe you and get off of the track before the train gets there, or to laugh at you and continue standing on the track until the train runs them down. Once you have warned them, your responsibility is finished. Our job, given the information given to us by the prophecies, both in the Bible, and as given by modern day Prophets of the Lord, is to pass on that information, just as we pass on the Good News about Jesus Christ. Yes we will see and endure almost all of what the Prophecies tell us, that is up until they kill us, or the Rapture happens. Which ever one comes first. We will still be in the Rapture.

I kind of thought that some of Raymond’s prophecies would not come to pass until after the rapture and maybe some of these prophecies in part were also for the people left behind, to help them get through the tribulation. Help them be strong and endure, not except the antichrist and die if need be.
Perhaps some of those prophecies that will be fulfilled after the Rapture will help the Jews to see the Truth.

God Bless,
MerMer Rae

Hello all,
My heart is not hardened towards what you guys are saying, or worried about it, I’m just not sure if I can say that I know for a fact that what you are saying is correct.
I really still do not trust myself yet.
What I go by is, is what this person saying biblical, yes what people are taught can be incorrect and yes many people misinterpret the scriptures.
It’s not that it matters so much, other then is it what the bible teaches.
You are all right about worrying about this and that and where and when so much.
The truth is going to happen regardless of what anyone may believe.
And yes you can witness until your blue in the face and if the person is not being called and their heart opened to the truth, they aren’t going to accept it I believe that to be true.
Right now I do not know all the scriptures or even one off the top of my head related to this topic, so I will just say that I know the bible speaks of saints who were left and gave their lives and meet Christ in the air. Also what about the millennial reign, is it only the Jews living here during the millennial reign?
The bible speaks of people refusing the mark and warns not to take the mark, saying anyone who takes the mark will be damned.
It seems not to make sense, not that what your saying doesn’t make sense.
It is possible and the concept that God would want it that way makes sense.
But reading the bible and comparing that to what you’re saying, well something seems not to add up.
Like, either the rapture occurs at the middle or end of the tribulation, then what you are saying would add up a little more.
Please be patient with me, as you can tell there are still just a few things I have some trouble getting my mind around.
I don’t worry about it though, I trust in the Lord and I don’t have to know everything about everything, it’s interesting to me but not paramount, you know.
I witness using Raymond prophecies, I witness in other ways, and what ever seems appropriate at the time.
If the teachings of any church are inaccurate and would cause people to go to hell, then the Lord will open their eyes to the deception through you or this web-site or through me.
Unless it doesn’t matter and all those who are suppose to go to heaven, go to heaven even if they thought you could make it after the rapture by dieing.
If I still think tomorrow what I think now, I still fully intend on going in the rapture.
I want to be ready, regardless.
I don’t have any desire to be left behind to find out.
I think I will ask my pastor about it and see what he says.
My heart is kind of saying it doesn’t matter, the people who aren’t ready when the trumpet sounds, wouldn’t be ready anyways and wouldn’t make it through the tribulation without taking the mark.


As I’m writing, for some reason I am reminded of the story of the poor man and the rich man when the rich man is in hell and asks for someone go back and warn his family so they don‘t end up like he did. He’s told no, it doesn’t work that way, he is told that they have enough, they have all the stories that were handed down they have the scriptures, they have enough to believe, God has given them all they need to believe and repent. If they don’t believe in him now then they wouldn’t believe even if he sent an angel to warn them.
I don’t know why, but in my heart I feel this applies in some way to what I am trying to say.
It may not to you, and you may be scratching your head.

That happens to me a lot.

God Bless,
MerMer Rae

Blessed be the Lord God , who testifys to the Truth

my brothers and sisters

when i went to church yesterday , asking the Lord to guide me as to what i should speak. I didnt speak much of the prophecies yet. Nothing of raymond. Nothing really. I went and made friends . Got to know some people. And the elder in front of me during service had alot of love.

It was a wendsday so it wasnt service as useual. They were talking about the church order , and what will take place and so on. As i stated here already , the lady in front of me gave a message in tounges , and another interpreted it. I see the Gifts of the Spirit in this place. True Children of God. And im wholly amazed that they know not whats comeing.

The good news about this church , God bless it , they were talking about the church traditions and mindsets that are false , ( which i know to be the church of man , though they didnt call it that )

It was beautyfull , they talked about letting those withen the membership ( those who come to hear) letting those loose to minister withen the church. And out in the Streets and so forth . They spoke about comeing together with other churches , and all of what they said that needed to be done was Godly , and i knew to be Gods Heart , and what He has been wanting.

My brothers i say this with Joy , they have there minds open. (so they say, but we will see ) open to hear Gods Words even if its against what they were taught or had believed. It seems they have some wisdom in this. But we will see when i begin to tell them , as God leads me , to tell them about the War thats comeing , and the Seals , and so forth about the Rapture , which already i see that false teaching withen them.

I know that there are those in this church who are of God , and who have the Holy Ghost withen them. I pray that they dont harden their head at what God leads me to tell them. Thinking , God talks to us , we have His Spirit , and what you teach is not what we believe.

My brothers and sisters , if they at this church dont recieve me ( yet not me but the Word withen me), as the Holy Lord will lead them. Then i will have no hope at all for the churches of this nation. And shame will cover me.

I went outside to play basketball , really because there was no other place to go , i was just wondering around , and my spirit didnt feel right in some of those places. so i went outside where there was peace.

A couple of kids were out there , and for a while i tryed to figure out how to talk with them. I asked how long they have been comeing here. Some said 4 years , one said more like 8 years. These were young kids , around 15 or 16.

While playiing , the youth pastor came out and started to play with us. And i started askeing him questions.

are there any prophets here? i asked. He said that there was those who operated in the prophetic from time to time , but no prophet as ordained to be a prophet. I asked him why not. He said i dont know really.

I asked so what do they say is to come. He said they said stuff mainly like what God wanted to do and so forth. But no long term vision as to whats to come. I asked why not? Hes said thats a good question. I said i think i have the answer. Just then it was as if they were a deer caught in the head lights. There eyes were wide , and i think they might have felt fear. He asked what is to come. I said , well its hard to tell you everything here and now.

just then a the kids around us went inside. I spoke to him about what God is doing right now. And how that Hes seperating the Church of Man from the Church of God. And he seemed to have some wisdom , for i reminded him about the churches of man , and what God did to them when they rejected His prophets. And how important it was for him not to reject true prophets of God. And so to explain to him why i couldnt tell him everything.

I told him , theres a war comeing. And i know then he began to be afraid. He said you mean a spiritual war , i said no thats already here. And he said yeah , as he already knew. That was the end of the conversation , for his little one came out and he had some things to do. He said we will talk about this later. And i told him to ask God about what i said.

My brothers and sisters , Pray that God lead me to say only what He wants me to say to them. And that there will be some of those there whom the Spirit will testify of me , and what i say for there sakes. For they know me not in the flesh , but pray that they will know me in the Spirit.

I feel so weak. So not ready. But i know i have in me the knowlege that they have not. And its important for me to tell them. At this time writing this i feel forces comeing against my head. Very powerfull , like a head acke.

I feel in my heart to go to these churches in my city , and bring this message to them about whats comeing. Even it seems to be inline with what God has called me to do , even to Prepare His People.

I know im not perfect before the Lord. And im struggling with alot. Im wondering if its even time for me to do such a thing.

I nearly cried thinking about whats to come , standing behind the two elders. It seems that this place will be a blessing to me , and that God will use me to be a blessing to this place. Pray for me and the pastors and those who are of God there. They seem to have a mindset that things will go on like this. Im trying to tell them , its not going to go on like this much longer. Either God will be more intence to them , or they will not see Him at all .

Im not sure exactly why im shareing all of this. Its just on my heart. Theres a way we must warn the Children of God , a way we must bring this Truth into the Churches. And its Gods way , He by His Spirit will guide us. Dont just rush in head first , with your agenda , slow down , feel God , let Him Lead you. Pray for God to Guide your Words , what you should speak and when , and what you shouldnt speak. Lest you make a fool of yourself. As i have done in times past. Lord have Mercy , and do testify of us when we enter churches , and tell us who are of You , and who are not. Praise be to God

its a shame my brothers , that the churches dont know whats comeing. They are completely blind , as if they were not of God at all. Yeah its our duty to tell them. Is that not why He raises prophets? To tell His People what Hes about to do?

Jack i tell you , dont stop posting it on here. Until people get it through there skulls. Thats the Truth that will seperate Gods People who Hear Him , from the Church of man who will harden themselfs against it , and Persecute us for it. God said so to ray just today as he posted it. That this Prophetic Ministry, this truth of whats to come would be a thorn in the side of the Church of Man.

Lord open our eyes to all the False teachings , that even now we still believe. With Love Correct us Father , not in Anger , lest You cut us off.

Jack my brother , will you take the time to clear up for us with scripture, the differnce between the bride of Jesus , and the wife of God , as being the Jews and the Gentiles.

For doesnt paul tell us that we are all the body of Christ? And if we are One body , One with the One we will marry ,and be One with Him , then how is it that there is a sepration ? If we are One body , and One flock , then where is the seperation.

Im sure alot of people have been wondering the same thing. And im sure God has given you the Answer , im looking forward to your responce.

Please use the Scriptures fully if you can. I know there must be alot of them, but this will be a blessing to all of us.

From MerMer Rae


Yes this certainly does apply here. For you and everyone else has now been given enough information from the Bible to make your decision. There need be no more said in order to make your decision to believe or not believe.

But before you go to any other man to see if we are telling you the truth, you had best go to God.

And here is a chart which tells you why.

http://www.prophecylink.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=106

Hi MerMer,
the only way that anyone can figure out what will happen, is to read the bible by yourself, and ask the Holy Spirit to interpret it...please don't go by what man says alone. Remember to test every spirit. You may not believe what's being said for whatever reason, but you need to find the answer out for yourself by yourself.
Trust the Holy Spirit, and then you can trust yourself.

Don't worry that anyone's frustrated with you...because you're doing the right thing in asking about this stuff at this time. Because you need to figure out the answer and we're only here to guide you, you make the final decision.


I think you even mentioned earlier that you can't always trust what man has to say...seriously all I can tell you is to ask God...ask the Holy Spirit, because once you have that, what you feel in your HEART is the truth, and you'll learn to trust that without second thought. Yours in Christ, Stephanie.

i thought i should post this when i read it just now.

Luke 13

The Narrow Door
22Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?"
He said to them, 24"Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.'
"But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from.'

26"Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.'

27"But he will reply, 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!'

28"There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out. 29People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God. 30Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last."

Hi all,
I posted my second post before Rev. Barr’s response to my first post, but now the order is backwards, that’s weird.
My pastor is my cousin in-law and I have been debating with him about when the rapture would happen, pre-trib, mid-trip or post-trib. He has always said pre-trip. It was me who was saying mid or post-trip. I actually was thinking that he might agree with you.

I don’t know why but I have always felt that way, I’ve always felt that the deception was that we would go before the tribulation, causing people to think we wouldn’t see any of it.
I think I was right in my heart about it though, I have always felt that things were going to get bad, really bad before the rapture and that people needed to prepare themselves or they would cave when it got hard on them.
So I’m thinking that that feeling is correct.
It’s just that it’s going to get bad before the rapture and before the last seven years of the tribulation. Most Christians think it’s the last three years of the tribulation that we will miss that the rapture will come before the last three years.

I think the concept that bothered me was that I feel people are not preparing for hard times, they think they won’t see any, they think they will be gone.
But I think it will be hard on us before the tribulation, you know.
Not that people are relying on making it through the tribulation because most Christians believe the rapture will come before.
Yes they also believe people will have a chance after. But most don’t want to be here.
I have for a long time now felt urgency in this area of debate, mostly concerning people thinking that they will not suffer or endure hard times and feeling desperately in my heart that we will.
It’s been like knowing something so strongly and no one will really listen.
And maybe I feel that most of the people I know are not getting it, not coming around even the religious ones. I think I was counting on there still being a chance for them after the rapture.
Even me you never know. I was taught that you had to be ready at the exact second of the rapture to make it. That exact second, that if you had a thought that was not godly at that second you wouldn’t go, then you would have to try and make it through the tribulation and they would try and kill you.
This was taught to me from a very young age, so you know as a child you think wow what if I believe and love the Lord but at that second I was doing or thinking something ungodly.
Although now I don’t worry about missing the rapture as much, I still worry about just about everyone else I know.
There are fears and reasons people hold onto what they have been taught.
What people have been taught they have already lived with and are comforted by.
They have found their way of dealing and most people who have grown up in church have a secret get out of jail free card for the tribulation, a secret plan, just in case.
Not to be sacrilegious in anyway by using a movie title but a lot of believers out there are walking around Eyes Wide Shut.
We don’t need others to deceive us, we do quite well deluding ourselves.
As a child, I used to get scared about the rapture, very scared. I look back now and I laugh a little. Now it’s a very different thing, though I still have a healthy fear/respect for God, I yearn for it and I’m terrified at the same time. The world seems so lost and they don’t even know it, even believers.
Okay I’m rambling again, sorry -
I guess I think that if the enemy can get you to think that you can make it through the tribulation then - he’s got you. And if he can get you to think that you won’t suffer anything because you’ll be raptured out before and you don’t prepare then - he’s got you.
Raymond’s prophecies that state to get ready, read the bible, repent and pray so you are strong and can endure what is to come, really fit into how I’ve been feeling for a long time. When ever the Lord chooses calls us home.
God Bless,
MerMer Rae