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The basis of Bavel's faith 2 years, 9 months ago #4231

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To break the Covenant of Joshuah the Christ, and condemn all followers of the rebellion faith to fall.

How?

By introducing pagan religious practices like christmas, easter, new year, Sunday worship etc

False teachings by an Apostle that teaches rebellion of the core faith. The false assumption that you can sit back and do nothing while the world dies before your eyes. The assumption that you are free to do lawlessness before El.

What did the other Apostles testify...

The Ten plus two commandments.
Charity to all men.
Faith with good works. (for what is faith if it is not shown? It is dead faith.)

By the way ... The Ten Commandments are the only accepted authenticated words written by El himself, magnified twice, for importance. Those who bear false witness to this fact are the workers of Satan the destroyer.

HalleluYah.

Re: The basis of Bavel's faith 2 years, 8 months ago #4319

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Shofar I am against Christmas and Easter etc. too.

Many are waking up about that. But it's better to teach about it properly than make sweeping statements... with a pinch of judgement and subtle threats on "God's" behalf. You don't know everything.

I've been reading all your posts... and you seem to push for people to OBEY the 10 Commandment as the "Way" of salvation... rather than to accept the Blood of Yeshua as Atonement for their sins. He was sent to BE our salvation. Only He could fulfill the Laws of YAHVEH perfectly! No human being... not even the 633 commandment keeping fanatical Pharisees could!

Why put yourself and others in bondage? To an unobtainable goal... that is to be accepted by YAHVEH by obeying His Law.It can't be done. Forget it.

But the LORD has shown me that they are Laws of LOVE and they should not be disregarded... would any real Christian purposely steal or commit adultery? No... "Shall we sin that grace may abound. No God forbid such a thought" So keep the Laws out of love and respect for Yahveh... but know you cannot keep them perfectly. That is the Truth. We can't love Him with all our heart and mind and strength all the time.

Don't see youself as UNDER the Old Covenant any more... but UNDER the New Covenant. It's a differnet 'way" of salvation.

I know it is hard to come to a balanced view of Law versus Grace and the Old and New Testaments. Some people think there were 2 different Gods! Perhaps we need real revelation knowledge of Yahveh's will. It has to be by the Holy Spirit. It is written that He would make a New Covenant with Israel and give them a new heart of flesh... and WRITE His Laws in their minds and put them in their hearts. This is the answer I beleive. That His Laws are in us, not outward in the Ark of the Covenant somewhere. We are to hide His Words in our hearts as Mary did... and she brought forth the Living Word by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Anything else is just works of the flesh... which is not acceptable to Yahveh in these last days. It's all about LOVE... through the Holy Spirit in us.

So please tell us... what does the New Covennat meant to you. What do you think changed after Yeshua died and poured out the Holy Spirit on his disciples. What did Peter say on the Day of Pentacost? Did he say anything about the Law? Acts 2

I love His Commandments... they are good and pure and sweeter than honey... I am so glad our Elohim is so Holy and Good and that He commands us to Love Him and each other... but I am weak and fail to keep them perfectly. I cannot live in guilt and fear over this though. I like to rest on the Sabbath day but some Jews won't use the computer or even turn on the stove or a light switch. This is not necessary. And Gentiles are not obliged to copy that sort of thinking. Even lighting Sabbath candles and saying set prayers is man made ritual.

So I TRUST in something higher and better... something perfect... the New Covenant... sealed by the giving of the body and blood of Yeshua which HE OFFERED IN LOVE to the Father on the Heavenly mercy seat for OUR sins.

Accept it, don't go backwards. That's called Judazising...telling people they HAVE to be circumcised and have to keep the Laws etc. All they HAVE to do is accept Yeshua as Yahveh's Beloved Son. There is no other way to please Him. I'm sure it pleases Yahveh if we don't eat swine flesh... but if people who don't understand do... and I used to... then He will not throw anyone into hell for it. Once we know the truth about something we are accountable to obey... but let the Father be the judge. Concentrate on the log in our own eyes.

Can I point out... you seem to have a blank spot pertaining to what others have tried to share with you here. You are very attention seeking. You don't focus on what you say... you ramble and are not clear in your messages. Maybe your English is not very good... but you need to pray deeply about your stance regarding Apostle Paul and the Law and Grace issues. .. and make your messages clearer or you will wear out your welcome.

Let us focus on YESHUA / JESUS as being our SAVIOUR from our sins. Yes? For this we must be eternally grateful.
Please do not keep valuing obeying the laws ABOVE having faith in the POWER of the HOLY BLOOD. There is NO OTHER WAY INTO GOD'S THRONE OF GRACE. No one is justified now by trying to keep the law. That's all over.

Forget the Great White Throne stuff... nor do we HAVE to keep the Feasts of the LORD... but just be mindful of the times as seasons as His time clocks. They too are analogies of something else. The Feast of Trumpets and the Feast of Tabernacles has yet to be fulfilled.

If we have received the Holy Spirit... then we will surely be a part of the Father's end time plans. His O.T. prophecies will be fulfilled. The Jews are on the verge of starting to rebuild the temple again. This MUST be rebuilt when a deal is made with the Muslims to share the temple mount. It will be built over the small Shrine directly behind the Eastern Gate and the Mt. of Olives where the red heifers will be sactrificed. Religious Jews beleive this will bring the Messiah back to Israel but it will pave the way for the Freemasons anti-messiah. "Arise and measure the temple and those who worship there but leave out the outer court for it is given to the gentiles" (Muslims) Book of Revelations.

When the angel Gabriel came to the Father's chosen vessel Miriam and said, "The power of the highest shall overshadow you and that Holy thing that shall be born of you shall be called the Son of Elohim.. you will call His name YESHUA... for he will save His people from their sins".. it was begining of the fulfillment of many prophecies

The Jews already had the Laws but they needed a SAVIOUR. Think about that for a while. You need Him too.

If you answer... please be specific to some of the the points I've raised.. not ramble on again with your own agenda... like a brocken record. We are not interested in your accusations against Apostle Paul. Forget that too.

That is not having a sensible conversation but using this Forum as a sounding board for your pet ideas.

I think others will agree with what I'm saying?

Re: The basis of Bavel's faith 2 years, 8 months ago #4322

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Susan777, by the tone of your replies in this and other forums, I detect a hint of Pride in trying to discredit the messages we bring. That is I, and the one whom is within me. HalleluYah.

Before we continue this conversation can you please confirm that the name of the Messiah you refer to in the Hebrew name Yeshua, translated into English is Joshuah, not Jesus.

Zechariah (KJV)

{6:11} Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set [them] upon the head of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest;

{6:12} And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name [is] The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

GalleluYah.

Re: The basis of Bavel's faith 2 years, 8 months ago #4324

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Whoops a spelly.

The last word should read .....

HalleluYah. I apologise King El for my error.
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