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about 1588 and 1501 7 years, 2 months ago #470
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Well, I was feeling very depressed this morning, about my problems, so I went over to prophecy.org and ran 'depressed' on the word search. I wanted to see how Raymond handles depression, since he's an ordinary guy
I continued to read, and at the end of 1588, God says "Then the Lord said, "The ax is at the root." Then next prophecy was 1501, and God prompted me in the Spirit to give a glimpse of what they mean. Raymond is depressed. Vision 1: Raymond's ministry during the 1990's and today. Vision 2: a Satan's influence as a Tree is cut off from heaven, and b Satan enters the Anti-Christ Vision 3: Jesus raptures the people Vision 4: Doorknob removed means the Door of Salvation can not be gone through Vision 5: the AntiChrist as a whirlwind destroys much on earth, everything he comes into contact with is destroyed Vision 6: just that, a nuclear explosion This is what I unknowingly ran into as I was depressed and seeking comfort in Raymond's adventures. It just happened. The LORD can show you if you pray about it. God Bless you all and prepare for it. |
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Re: about 1588 and 1501 7 years, 2 months ago #476
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BlueRiverTributaries wrote:
Raymond is depressed. Vision 1: Raymond's ministry during the 1990's and today. Vision 2: a Satan's influence as a Tree is cut off from heaven, and b Satan enters the Anti-Christ Vision 3: Jesus raptures the people Vision 4: Doorknob removed means the Door of Salvation can not be gone through Vision 5: the AntiChrist as a whirlwind destroys much on earth, everything he comes into contact with is destroyed Vision 6: just that, a nuclear explosion That is the order that the Lord showed me. And note (I marked it in red) vision 3 &4, this is what the Lord God Jesus Christ showed me in the Bible, that the Bible says that if you miss the Rapture, the door of Salvation is shut, if you miss the rapture, you are locked out. |
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With the Love of Jesus
Rev. Jack Barr |
Re: about 1588 and 1501 7 years, 2 months ago #477
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Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. In reference to the six visions, would not these verses show people being beheaded and saved because they refused the mark? Why do you say that the door of salvation is closed after the Rapture, in light of these verses? How does the LORD lead you on this? |
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Re: about 1588 and 1501 7 years, 2 months ago #479
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BlueRiverTributaries wrote:
Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. In reference to the six visions, would not these verses show people being beheaded and saved because they refused the mark? Why do you say that the door of salvation is closed after the Rapture, in light of these verses? How does the LORD lead you on this? Hi BlueRiver, I say it because these events will happen Before the Rapture! But the Rapture will happen Before the Great Last Seven Year Tribulation as shown in the Bible. Confusion is also there because it tells us that they come out of "Great Tribulation" which everyone jumps to the conclusion is "The Great Tribulation" period that will start the Last 7 years. That Great Tribulation period is 7 years long, and is also called the time of Jacob's Troubles in the Bible. Those seven years are the last seven years of Daniel's prophecy of the 70 weeks of years. During this time there can be NO Christians, for the age of Grace, or the Dispensation of Grace will come to an end! And the entire world then goes back under Mosaic Law for the Jews to fulfill the last seven years of Daniel's Prophecy. The Last seven years before Jesus Returns To the Earth to set up His Earthly Kingdom. That seven years cannot begin until the Antichrist signs a seven year peace treaty with Israel. And the Antichrist will not be revealed until the Holy Spirit leaves this Earth, releasing the Earth to the Antichrist who will then be revealed. The Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit will never leave us, so when the Holy Spirit leaves this Earth, we go with Him. So the Rapture is also tied to the Holy Spirit leaving this earth. They happen at the same instant. The biggest confusion seems to come by the idea that the Christians will not have any kind of Tribulation Before the "Great Tribulation" starts. Therefore they believe that any tribulation any Christian will have can only be during those last seven years. They are wrong!! Christians have always had periods of Tribulation, and will have again Before those seven years begins. They will have some very severe Tribulations before the Rapture takes place. The next point of confusion seems to be exactly what you were taught, and what I was taught, and what almost every minister and seminary teaches today. And that is the teaching that the Last seven year Tribulation (which is the last seven years before Jesus sets up His Kingdom) starts with Chapter 6 of the Book of Revelation, which is the opening of the Seals. This is a wrong teaching. The Lord has shown me that the opening of the Seals has already started, and that the first seal has already been opened. The first seal is the Antichrist conquering by peaceful means (has a bow but NO arrows). And while this is happening right now, the Antichrist is rising to a position of Power in the world, But he has not yet been revealed as to who he is. And this is in keeping with what the Bible tells us. But we see that the next seals are about to be opened, and the next seal is War, followed by death, famine, etc. and with 1/4 of the World's population being killed. There will be Great tribulations upon all peoples during this time, and this is the time which is spoken about in the verses you quote. You see, while the Antichrist will not yet be revealed, it does not mean that the Antichrist will not be in control of the events taking place during this time. Now there are one or two more points needed to be made for understanding. First, During the last week of Daniel's Prophecy, the entire world goes back under the Jewish Mosaic Law, where you will have only Jews and Gentiles, and NO Christians. For the Bible has shown that where one Dispensation has started, another previous Dispensation came to an end. So the when the Dispensation of the LAW returns for final fulfillment as given in the Prophecies of the Bible, then the Dispensation of Grace Must come to an end. Just as the Dispensation of the LAW was set aside in order for God to show us the Mystery of the Dispensation of Grace, where the Dispensation of Law no longer had any effect, ( and we are Not Bound,) and those under the Dispensation of Grace were no longer under the Dispensation of the Law. And so it is that the Dispensation of Grace, under which there are Christians, will have to be set aside, ended, for the Dispensation of LAW of continue to it's end as promised and told to us in Prophecy. Therefore, there can NOT be both Christians and Jewish Law at the same time. So when The Book of Revelation speaks of People dying for Jesus Christ as martyrs, this can only be before the Rapture where all Christians are will be lifted off of the Earth, and before the Dispensation of the LAW goes back into effect for the Last seven years. This puts the start of the Last Seven Year "Great Tribulation" as shown in Daniel's Prophecy, starting with the Trumpet Judgments. Second: the Book of Revelation tells us that Anyone who is NOT killed during the Trumpet Judgments will never Repent. (Chapter 9:20-21) And if there is No Repentance then there can be NO Salvation. And the Bible has told us right along in the parable of the 10 Virgins that those who miss going in with the Bridegroom when He comes are locked out, for it tells us that the doors are closed, and the other five virgins come and pound on the door and BEG for entry but the Bridegroom tells them he will NOT open the door to them because He does not know them. The are locked out forever. You should note that anyone who is not now ready in all respects to go with the Holy Lord God, to stand before His Judgment, if they were to go to the grave right now, then would have Judgment against them and they would go to hell fires. So it is at the time of the Rapture, If they are Not ready, as the Parable tells us that they were not ready, then had those same persons died first before the Rapture, they still would not have been granted entrance into heaven. So why would God later say to those people "Well I would have sent you to Hell if you had come before me before the Rapture, but now I will relent and let you into heaven, just because you changed after you missed the Rapture"!! For if God did that then he would be denying his own word that he gave us. So it will never happen. If you miss the Rapture, you miss everything. There are many of us to whom the Lord God had shown us this truth, and as we tell others, they refuse to believe, always pointing to some scripture and say "But what about this, or that one". Neither I, nor anyone else I know takes any offence at this, for I, and others, know that they only do it out of ignorance, because that is what they have been taught all of their lives. And it is hard to let go of some teachings. I know, for I had to let go of those same old teachings. But if you are ready to meet the Lord, to stand before His Judgment seat, then it does not matter when the Rapture will take place, For there is a good one chance in four of being one of the dead long before the Rapture, and so will face the Judgment seat of Jesus Christ before the rest of us who live until that time. May the Lord Continue to Bless and Keep you. Continue asking these good questions. |
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With the Love of Jesus
Rev. Jack Barr |
Re: about 1588 and 1501 7 years, 2 months ago #490
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I am always afraid of your posts because of the wrath you have shown in the past, but you have shown none such to me. I guess you see Him too in me.
I still have alot to work on. I am quite a unique individual in Christ, and I still have alot of sins to overcome and alot of healing to do. I am still afraid that God will put me in hell because I dont have it all together. I dont understand alot of things, I still fallback to old habits, this Christ walk is hard to do! I just hope that God remembers that I am a work in progress, and anything I have left to do, God will cover for me. I dont want to locked out of the Rapture or an eternity with Jesus. I guess my question is, how can you people stay faithful? That has always eluded me. I'm more a Jonah than a Paul, although I'd rather be Paul. Tell me what it is you do that you stay holy before God, because I'd like to learn too. |
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Re: about 1588 and 1501 7 years, 2 months ago #491
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Hi BlueRiver,
May the Lord continue to bless you and use you in a mighty way. This is the fourth time that I tried to type out and post this message to you. Each of the first three times, when the letter was almost finished, it would suddenly disappear, and I would be back to square one. Those who are following the Holy Lord God Jesus Christ need have no fear of any message from me. And I only send messages of warning when My Lord God Jesus Christ directs me to do so, for the Lord Jesus Christ has always used me as a Messenger, carrying His messages to people. And anytime there is a few words which includes the words "So Saith the Lord God" then it is a message direct, word for word, from the Lord God to who ever it is sent to, and is NOT from me. For the Lord directs the exact words to be used, and I dare not change even one word, of those kinds of messages. As for being more like someone else in your walk with the Lord God, we all look at others on occasion, making note of what we see of their walk with the Lord, and we say to ourselves, I wish I could be as close to Jesus as they are. And they look at us and say to themselves, I wish that I could be as close to Jesus as they are. You see, not one of us sees ourselves as being as close to Jesus as we think that we should be, or as close as we would like to be. We see the halo around someone else and cannot see the halo around ourselves. So believe me when I tell you that YOU!!!! are much more CLOSE to Jesus Christ than you can even imagine. I will tell you this, anyone who thinks that they are just where they should be with the Holy Lord God, can be absolutely sure that they are far away from the Lord God. For the Lord has shown me this in visions, then explaining the vision. They may still be His servant, but they are way out there on the ragged edge, about to fall off the edge. You see, there are times when the Lord God will send you messages to lift you up, messages to edify you. Oh I love to send this kind of message. Again, there is no way that I could possibly know how your walk with Jesus is, except the Holy Lord God reveals it to me. For some, (not just on this list, {for most on this list are truly children of the Lord.} but mostly in many post that come to my site.) the Lord gives a mild warning as a chastisement to one of His Children. To others there is a warning from the Lord God to turn around, to step back from that cliff of total destruction. For once they step off of that cliff there is NO coming back. And so, any wrath that you have seen in any of my posts, is only because the Lord God has directed it to be so, and it is not of myself. Not everyone who has posted to this list is of the Lord God Almighty, there have been on occasion, some who have chosen to worship the god of this world, and have posted deceiving post. that is why we always have told everyone to never go to another man to see if they are being told the truth, but rather to go Only to God Almighty, who will tell you which is speaking truth and which are speaking lies. And you need to test my words also, for every post that I put up. I do look forward to reading your postings to this list, just as I enjoy reading most of them. |
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With the Love of Jesus
Rev. Jack Barr |
Re: about 1588 and 1501 7 years, 2 months ago #499
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Thank you for the kind words. I read your post with much interest.
So it took you four times to send your message? It sounds like somebody didn't want me to hear what you were going to say. Here is a question for you: why is this life so darn hard? As in, why is it so impossible to live right now? |
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Re: about 1588 and 1501 7 years, 2 months ago #500
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BlueRiverTributaries wrote:
Thank you for the kind words. I read your post with much interest. So it took you four times to send your message? It sounds like somebody didn't want me to hear what you were going to say. Here is a question for you: why is this life so darn hard? As in, why is it so impossible to live right now? Hi BlueRiver, You can bet that there are things that Satan does not want the Children of God, the Bride of Jesus Christ to hear and understand. Yes it happens from time to time when I am typing out a letter of instructions to someone that everything crashes, and I have to start over. I keep saving as I go, but even then there are times when even that disappears. Even to the computer doing a complete crash, taking days or at times weeks to bring it back up. I see that Raymond has the same things happening to him, and I believe that it happens to many of God's chosen people. You ask, "why is life so hard", and I tell you both good and bad news about that. The Bad news is that it will NEVER be any easier than it is right now to be a Christian, to live the Christian Life. For the Holy Lord has already started separating His Sheep from the Goats. And persecution has been going strong all around the world, and although most Christians in America have on blinders, believing that THEY will not have to suffer for Jesus, and therefore THEY will not come under persecution. They are truly blind. For persecution against Christians has been underway in America for some years now, and is growing progressively more intense in the last year or so. Even to some Christians being murdered (in America) just because they are Christians, and have spoken out against evil. Laws are being passed in many places right now In America, which makes it illegal to preach against homosexuality, or abortion, calling that hate crimes. I do not wish to frighten you or anyone else, however, in the next couple of years, you will see it become against the Law to even have any kind of Christian literature in your possession, and against the law to download any from the internet. Just to be caught with any religious Christian writings will lead to prison and even to death of that Christian. When you see this happening you will see the separation of the Sheep from the Goats. Many whom you now believe are good Christians, you will see reject Jesus, in their attempts to save their own life. They will turn against their Brothers and Sisters in the Lord. These are not my prophecies, but I only repeat what Raymond Aguilera and Thomas Gibson has already given in prophecy. I do know that any of God's true children who are serving and OBEYING Jesus Christ, Jesus will place a protective hand over them. For many Jesus will use in a mighty way during and after that time, yet there will be many good True Christians who will go to their death for the name of Jesus. The martyrs under the altar of God in heaven. I have related to some a vision the Lord gave to me several years ago. I was standing at the altar of a small church, with a group of people, and I and the Pastor were laying hands on for healing, when suddenly I heard a machine gun firing, and all around me the people fell to the ground, then in an instant they were all standing there as before. About a year later, we were having a revival in that church, and during the service I could not take my eyes off of the altar. They the Lord spoke to me and said "Yes, that is where they will be when the soldiers burst in the door and machine gun them down", then a moment later the Lord said to me "But they will not all be Mine." The Lord told me later that I would not be there when that happened, and the pastor that was there would not be at that church when it happened either. The Lord then went on and told me of some personal things that the Lord would have me do. Then just a couple of years ago as I was driving past that little church the Lord gave me a vision of that church as a smoking pile of rubble with only part of one corner of the building still standing, then told me of things which the Lord would have me do AFTER that church was destroyed as I had been shown. The Good news is that following that will be one of the greatest revivals the world has ever seen, with millions of people in America coming to the Lord for Salvation, then will come the Rapture. But this true Revival will NOT be inside the organized churches, but will be outside in the Highways and byways, in the woods and in the swamps. However the prophecies warn us to lookout for a great revival which will run throughout the Churches, before the true revival, for that revival in the churches will be a false revival. Somehow I feel that you will be there taking part in leading many to salvation during that great revival, and showing by signs and miracles that you are speaking for the Holy Lord God Almighty. For you will listen to what the Lord tells you, and you will obey Him instantly, and the Lord will carry you through the terrible times that are coming. But I cannot say that you will not suffer for the Lord during that time. |
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