I read alot of different things on this. And the ones that say yes usually say that you shouldn't do a deliverence to a non-believer. And alot of them refer back to
Mathew 15:26
But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast [it] to dogs.

which confuses me because after that Jesus does.
15:27
And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

15:28
Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great [is] thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.


I don't mean to stir up anything, I have just seen so many things contradicting each other on this subjuct. I have alot to learn and read yet.

So I guess I have two questions

1. Can a Christian be demon posessed?
2. If so should only Christians be delivered from these demons?

If my post is out of line, please disregard it and delete.

DSTORM wrote:


Hi,
In answer to your questions. On the first, "Can a Christian be demon possessed?" The answer is a resounding NO! Why? To be Possessed means that there is a demon who has taken up residence INSIDE of you. Because A Christian has the infilling of the Most Holy Spirit of God in them, and that Demons and the Holy Spirit cannot reside in the same house at the same time, i.e. The Holy Spirit will not share its space with Demons. Therefore when you have the Holy Spirit in you, the Holy Spirit will keep those Demons out. A True Christian can Never be Possessed by Demons.

That is not to say that a Christian may not be listening to those demons who are outside of him, just as Eve listened to Satan who was outside of her. Those Christians, while not Possessed, are, or can be "Oppressed" by Demons.

Note that just claiming to be Christian does not make one a Christian. Therefore some who claim to be Christians may be Possessed.


On your second Question, "Should anyone do a deliverance on a NON-Believer? The answer is that a Deliverance can only be done on Non Believers. So lets first see just what, and who, a Believer is. The Word of God in the KJV Bible tells us who the "Believers" are known by the signs which Every Believer will have following them. Mark 16:17-18 Question: Is it possible to be a follower of Christ without being a Believer? Absolutely. Does one have to be a "Believer" who has the signs listed in Mark 16, in order to go to heaven? NO! Again NO, Heaven is open to anyone who follows Christ, even if they have not been Baptized in water.

Note: Were the people that Jesus cast Demons out of, followers of Christ Before, or after, the Demons were cast out. Witness the man in the tombs who had legions of Demons in him. Mark 5:1-20. The man most certainly was not a follower of Christ until AFTER Jesus cast all those demons out of him.

So much for the very idea of not casting demons out of a non Believer. Those who tell you that you should not cast Demons out of non Believers would shake and faint if they ever came face to face with a Demon. Not one of them even has a clue as to HOW to cast a Demon out of anyone.

Thank you for making sense of it all. The scriptures I had read didn't agree with what I was hearing from others. I have seen whole websites out there that minister on the fact they believe the the opposite, but it never settled well with me. They would quote one scripture and say it was because of that, then if you read the others around that one scripture it would describe it differently. Thank you.

Dear brothers in Christ,

I would like to submit for your consideration these scriptures.. and please correct me if i am wrong..

In Luke 11 Jesus spoke of the unclean spirit returning back to it's former house. It is apparent that the only way the unclean spirit goes out of a man is through deliverance (since demons do not like to let go of their host bodies), and somehow Jesus describes that an evil spirit can return and dwell back to their former 'body' after deliverance if the body is not presented as a living sacrifice before God..

Luke 11:24-26
24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

I would also like to bring us into consideration what Jesus said to the man healed of his infirmity...

JOHN 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

It seems that what Jesus said 'lest a worse thing come unto thee' seems to refer to evil spirits coming back in with 7 others more if the person delivered persisted in sinful habits..

There is also this verse which speaks of giving 'place' to the devil... could this 'place' refers to our body?

EPH 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.

Now personally i believe and agree with you that a christian cannot be possessed by demons because we are sealed by the Holy Spirit..

EPH 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

However, it seems that demons can occupy and destroy the body of a christian (if the christian continue compromising with sinful habits)- yet the demon cannot fully possess the christian.

One final references....in 1 Corinthians 5 there was a case of a christian involved in fornication.. it seems that Paul's judment of the matter is parallel with what Jesus said to the man 'lest a worse thing come unto thee..'

1 Corinthians 5:1-5
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

It seems clear that this christian will suffer in his body because he gave 'place' to the devil, yet his spirit is sealed by the Holy Spirit. However, this condition does grieve the Holy Spirit (Eph 4:30) even though in the end his spirit is saved 'as being pulled out from the fire' (Jude 1:23)..

I do respect each person's decision in this matter and i only speak this to add to our understanding, if i have misquoted something please let me know..

Please post your thoughts with confidence..

God bless

Oh by the way, DStorm, just to clarify, based on Matthew 15:26 that you quoted, the deliverance of the daughter is based on her mother's faith.

Since the syrian woman believed in Jesus (which makes her a believer), therefore she used her faith to enable healing for her daughter, since the daughter is under her authority.

It's the same case with the centurion's servant who was healed by the centurion's faith.

We can suspect that both daughter and the centurion's servant had heard of Jesus's reputation for healing and had accepted the fact that Jesus can heal.

If someone has faith in Jesus for healing, that makes them a believer.

However, if the person being prayed for refuses to believe in Jesus, then deliverance cannot be accomplished because of unbelief.

Deliverance can only be done through someone exercising faith. In the case of the mad man of Gadarenes (a case of an almost complete possession by Legion), Jesus exercised His faith to accomplished deliverance, since the man's freewill is blocked out by Legion and there was no one of his family available to exercise their faith towards him.

So in summary, deliverance cannot be done in the absence of faith in Jesus. I believe if one has faith in Jesus, that makes them a believer..

I think all are valid points. And fairly pointed in all the same direction. That if really a Christian and truly following Christ that evil cannot dwell within. But if you stray and allow it back in, your essentially inviting it back in? And at that point you could be even though you were once saved? But then that is another topic all together.

I only asked this for my own better understanding, I don't want to disrupt anyones own belief that may be reading this.

its ok to ask, Dstorm.. and i dont claim to be always right, either. I am still learning just like everyone..

We should discuss things in a good manner, and i am open to correction as well. But this is a good question to ask, and i respect Rev Jack's input as well..

Is there ever a case shown in the bible where a follower of Christ becomes posessed with a demon? Not before?

No, as far as i can tell..

The most extreme case so far in the bible is of christians giving heed to doctrines of devils, but there is not mentioned any one case of one become possessed with a demon...

1TIM 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

The devil seek to deceive the body of Christ, and the worse method for him to do it is by full demon possession. The evil one will always mix his lie with the truth and make it so presentable and acceptable before the church..

All this the evil one does, so that the church neglects her authority and power in Jesus to demolish the gates of hell..

We are to do greater works than the Lord Jesus, but we have not accomplished much in this..but anyway the Lord's mercy is so great towards us.